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  • Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
    Alaska bakes under heat wave linked to climate change



    Blind man!
    It's called weather, which varies, and temps in 50s is hardly "baking" ...

    Meanwhile and elsewhere ...

    Massive 'Game of Thrones' ice wall forms in Newfoundland
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/to...cid=spartanntp


    Temperatures set to drop dramatically on East Coast
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/to...cid=spartanntp

    Ignorant man!
    TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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    • Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
      Alaska bakes under heat wave linked to climate change



      Blind man!
      Since no working link ...
      ...
      Alaska had unusually high temperatures on Saturday, with record-tying temperature of 50 degrees at Anchorage International Airport, the National Weather Service said. This is the 18th straight day of seeing temperatures above 40 degrees, CBS Anchorage affiliate KDKA reports.

      March had seven record-high temperatures at Anchorage International Airport, the National Weather Service said.

      As of 10 a.m., Anchorage ended 102 consecutive days with snow on the ground, the National Weather Service said. If this is the end of snow for the season, it will the fourth earliest meltout on record. The earliest meltout was March 22, 2016.
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      https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/to...cid=spartanntp
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      • Alaska sits in an unusual geographical location where climate variation is likely to me more extreme. Today I was reading about a 1000 year old forest found under a retreating glacier in Alaska.
        We hunt the hunters

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        • Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post
          Alaska sits in an unusual geographical location where climate variation is likely to me more extreme. Today I was reading about a 1000 year old forest found under a retreating glacier in Alaska.
          One will find about 12,000+ year old forest remains under the sea, on the floor of the North Sea, East of the UK; remains from last Ice Age and before the mile+ thick glaciers melted; causing ocean levels back then to begin to rise.

          As I've tried to present often here; "CLIMATE" is not stagnant and is always either "cooling into an Ice Age" or "warming out of an Ice Age" and for the past 12-15,000 years our planet has been on that 'warming, out off' trend. Do we want to muck with a Natural Process/Trend for an aledged and supposed minor human caused effect, or wait and collect more data before deciding if there is a problem AND we might have a clue to solution ???

          My position is we haven't enough data yet to decide if this is 'abnormal' and have even less data to know if there is a 'solution'; and if such is something we can affect("fix"). i.e. we aren't sure if;
          "Nature is broken"?
          "If Nature is Broken, is it human fault?"
          "Do we humans know enough to know how to "fix it" "???


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          • The perils of the ‘Chicken Little’ approach to fighting climate change

            ...
            Imagine there is a movie about a meteor heading toward earth. It will be here in 12 years. Following Hollywood convention, once you got past the part where the maverick scientist or precocious kid discovering it struggles to convince the world about the threat, you would expect the president or the military to leap into action.

            Congress is usually left out of such plots, but it isn’t a stretch to imagine that Congress would race to authorize a plan to send astronauts into space to prevent Armageddon or a planetary deep impact. (If you don’t believe me, I refer you to the movies “Armageddon” and “Deep Impact.”)

            The initial rollout of the Green New Deal, a sweeping proposal to overhaul the US economy and, taken seriously, society itself, was supposed to follow a script like this. The United Nations opened the bidding by ­announcing last year that we had 12 years to keep the pace of climate change from accelerating too fast to contain the damage.

            Like a high-school game of telephone, this quickly became a blanket statement that we have “12 years to save the planet.”

            Climate change is a real concern, but if we did absolutely nothing to stop it, the planet would still be here in a dozen years. So would the human race and many other living things. In fact, if America did virtually everything the Green New Dealers propose, global emissions of greenhouse gases wouldn’t change that much unless China, ­India, Russia and all the African ­nations followed suit.

            There are people who nonetheless believe that climate change is a world-threatening calamity and that exaggeration is a necessary tool to galvanize public opinion. If you Google the phrase “12 years to save the planet,” you will find people who think it’s literally true
            ....
            https://nypost.com/2019/03/31/the-pe...limate-change/
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            • Of course, you have to consider that the UN IPCC has claimed that over a decade ago there would be "millions of climate refugees..." didn't happen. They claimed sea coasts and cities on oceans would be inundated by rising seas more than a decade ago. Didn't happen. They said the temperature would rise 5 or more degrees. It hasn't.
              In fact, virtually everything the screaming disaster climate change bunch as predicted in their alarmist diatribes hasn't come true.

              Now, they're getting serious trying to tie Social and Economic Justice, conversion to Socialism, and a One World Government to climate change too.
              You'd think if they were serious they'd embrace nuclear power. It solves-- and quickly-- the carbon emissions problem. But, they don't. They want to get rid of it even as it is obvious solar and wind won't work. They're not calling for hydrogen fuel cell cars, but impractical battery ones. They want more public transit and to abolish most forms of private transportation. Why? Because that increases control over the population's movement.

              It's becoming very abundantly clear that climate change today is more about pushing a Leftist Progressive Social and Economic agenda than saving the planet.

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              • Cold wind chills return for Midwest, East Coast as new storm targets West Coast

                ...
                A storm system moving from Colorado to New York over the weekend delivered a variety of conditions, including a tornado in Colorado, with flooding and snow prevalent elsewhere.

                Parts of western New York and Pennsylvania saw as much as 5 inches of snow overnight with the cold air passing over the Great Lakes.
                ...
                https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/...6&q=60&o=f&l=f


                ...
                https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/to...cid=spartanntp
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                • Sierra Nevada snowpack at 161 percent of normal

                  With robust snowpack, state uses Oroville Dam spillway for first time since it failed in 2017

                  ...
                  https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/04/...ent-of-normal/
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                  • Scientific studies indicate that extreme weather events such as heat waves and large storms are likely to become more frequent or more intense with human-induced climate change.

                    https://www.epa.gov/climate-indicators/weather-climate

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                    • Think about what causes "weather" and you have to question warming making it more "severe". A uniformly warm atmosphere is a static system. If they are correct and most of the warming is at the poles the atmospheric temperature will be more uniform. That said the same uniformity could reduce not only atmospheric currents but ocean currents as well. That would cause cooling of the poles. The truth is nobody knows because the system is to complex and chaotic to be predictable by the current low resolution models.

                      The unpredicted growth of the Greenland glacier is evidence of just how terrible the models actually are. So far the modelers are 0 for 100 on predictions.
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                      • Originally posted by bill shack View Post
                        Scientific studies indicate that extreme weather events such as heat waves and large storms are likely to become more frequent or more intense with human-induced climate change.

                        https://www.epa.gov/climate-indicators/weather-climate
                        From another guv'mint agency seeking to sustain if not grow it's budget and size having already fulfilled it's original mandates.

                        Meanwhile, you'd rather see the world cooling into another Ice Age it would seem.
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                        • Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post
                          Think about what causes "weather" and you have to question warming making it more "severe". A uniformly warm atmosphere is a static system. If they are correct and most of the warming is at the poles the atmospheric temperature will be more uniform. That said the same uniformity could reduce not only atmospheric currents but ocean currents as well. That would cause cooling of the poles. The truth is nobody knows because the system is to complex and chaotic to be predictable by the current low resolution models.

                          The unpredicted growth of the Greenland glacier is evidence of just how terrible the models actually are. So far the modelers are 0 for 100 on predictions.
                          There is some of the major PROBLEM with the ACC/AGW proponents, they think that Climate is like the thermostat in their home, and can be set to an everlasting stagnant narrow range of variation. Meanwhile, geological and ice-core sample records show that Climate is always in flux and has done so to both extremes far beyond what we humans have experienced or recorded over the past 6000 years.

                          Second near major PROBLEM of most ACC/AGW proponents is they don't personally live the solutions they think the rest of us should. Beginning with no longer exhaling carbon dioxide.
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                          • I kind of wonder... What did all that civilization living on the bottom of what's now the North Sea feel about climate change. Or those people living in the Mediterranean basin when it was like 100 + feet lower...

                            Climate change happens, and mostly if not entirely due to natural causes. Aside from that, a slightly warmer planet is probably a good thing rather than a bad thing.

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                            • Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                              I kind of wonder... What did all that civilization living on the bottom of what's now the North Sea feel about climate change.
                              We're trying/hoping to find out.

                              Well not exactly how they felt about it, but how it manifested itself to them.

                              Was it a slow change barely noticed, over generations, or a (a series of) cataclysmic event(s) that forced them to move in the course of a lifetime, or presumably some combination of both..

                              https://forums.armchairgeneral.com/f...for-doggerland

                              http://www.vliz.be/docs/groterede/GR...rdzeebodem.pdf

                              Finally, this work is more than just of academic interest. Climate change, global warming and sea level rise are all issues in the forefront of everyone’s minds now. So as well as exploring and interpreting, in unparalleled detail, one of the most extensive, yet least known, prehistoric landscapes in Europe, this research will lend context and time depth to present day challenges for us all.
                              https://www.academia.edu/2480682/Map...hern_North_Sea
                              Last edited by Snowygerry; 05 Apr 19, 04:29.
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                              • Originally posted by Snowygerry View Post

                                We're trying/hoping to find out.

                                Well not exactly how they felt about it, but how it manifested itself to them.

                                Was it a slow change barely noticed, over generations, or a (a series of) cataclysmic event(s) that forced them to move in the course of a lifetime, or presumably some combination of both..

                                https://forums.armchairgeneral.com/f...for-doggerland

                                http://www.vliz.be/docs/groterede/GR...rdzeebodem.pdf



                                https://www.academia.edu/2480682/Map...hern_North_Sea
                                One also wonders how it took the inhabitants of those late stone age/early bronze age sea side cities and settlements that were drowned in the same sea level rise and whose submerged ruins lie off the modern coasts of Iberia, North Africa and India.
                                Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe (H G Wells)
                                Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens (Friedrich von Schiller)

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