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  • ^ Two problems Bill ...
    1) not fully or correctly sourced and linked ...
    2) As usual, blurs and fails to distinguish between Natural or Anthropogenic (human caused).

    How about linking the full survey so we can better check context and methods of questioning?

    Meanwhile; "What is the ground-speed of a swallow?"
    TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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    • Originally posted by SRV Ron View Post

      Are you willing to totally give up your freedom and lifestyle to the crying of WOLF by the environmentalist and Federal Agencies in a country where great strides have been made in reducing pollution and energy use while China and India continue to pollute the planet with reckless abandon?

      Because, that is the agenda on the Left. Downsize everyone's lifestyle and freedom by seizing all private property and money, move them into tiny apartments or communes, force them to use public transportation or just walk to where they need to go, eventually reduce the world's population to a couple of hundred millions by only keeping those that are of any value to the Collective.
      https://www.un.org/sustainabledevelo...mate-change-2/

      The evidence that Humans have a very small impact on the Global Warming Panic.
      https://www.heartland.org/news-opini...rming-alarmism.

      If you really believe the Junk Science, do your part and give up your lifestyle, freedom, and move into a tiny apartment in the city.
      Even better, if the true believers in the religion of ACC/AGW had ethics and integrity they would get off the internet, give-up their computers, step away from modern lifestyle and devices; then strip down to birthday suit and dash into the wilderness to survive on what food they can get via their bare hands. And no fire to cook such over.
      TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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      • Countries reach agreement on Paris climate accord rules at COP24

        After two weeks of bruising negotiations, officials from almost 200 countries agreed Saturday on universal, transparent rules that will govern efforts to cut emissions and curb global warming. Fierce disagreements on two other climate issues were kicked down the road for a year to help bridge a chasm of opinions on the best solutions.

        https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/cop24-...ange-1.4948027

        and of course some of the largest oil producers in the world are fighting this agreement i wonder why ? U.S., Russia, Kuwait and Saudis block key climate study at COP24


        https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/u...op24-1.4938765

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        • Originally posted by bill shack View Post
          Countries reach agreement on Paris climate accord rules at COP24

          After two weeks of bruising negotiations, officials from almost 200 countries agreed Saturday on universal, transparent rules that will govern efforts to cut emissions and curb global warming. Fierce disagreements on two other climate issues were kicked down the road for a year to help bridge a chasm of opinions on the best solutions.

          https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/cop24-...ange-1.4948027

          and of course some of the largest oil producers in the world are fighting this agreement i wonder why ? U.S., Russia, Kuwait and Saudis block key climate study at COP24


          https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/u...op24-1.4938765
          Want to bet on whether they bother to actually do or meet what they agreed to?

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          • The transparency that's needed first is in the research.
            We hunt the hunters

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            • Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post
              The transparency that's needed first is in the research.

              We have that, it's called peer review.

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              • Originally posted by bill shack View Post
                Countries reach agreement on Paris climate accord rules at COP24

                After two weeks of bruising negotiations, officials from almost 200 countries agreed Saturday on universal, transparent rules that will govern efforts to cut emissions and curb global warming. Fierce disagreements on two other climate issues were kicked down the road for a year to help bridge a chasm of opinions on the best solutions.

                https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/cop24-...ange-1.4948027

                and of course some of the largest oil producers in the world are fighting this agreement i wonder why ? U.S., Russia, Kuwait and Saudis block key climate study at COP24


                https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/u...op24-1.4938765
                Propaganda from the Green Fascists .

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                • Originally posted by Paddybhoy View Post


                  We have that, it's called peer review.
                  https://www.statnews.com/2016/12/05/...ocess-science/

                  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1420798/
                  We hunt the hunters

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                  • Peer review is simply an out to claim your research, or whatever, is somehow valid.

                    But does peer review `work' at all? A systematic review of all the available evidence on peer review concluded that `the practice of peer review is based on faith in its effects, rather than on facts'.
                    2
                    But the answer to the question on whether peer review works depends on the question `What is peer review for?
                    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1420798/

                    Having an authentic name, representing a real research institution, and offering actual scientific results are apparently not required for publication in many open access journals,
                    Science
                    has found. A completely invented scientist—“Ocorrafoo Cobange”—who worked at a fabricated institution—“the Wassee Institute of Medicine in Asmara”—was able to get the same terribly faked paper accepted for publication in 157 journals.
                    https://www.the-scientist.com/the-nu...r-review-38589

                    Or this piece of military history tripe, who the author of told me in an e-mail exchange that it was "peer reviewed" and therefore somehow valid when it was easily one of the worst researched military history books I'd ever had the displeasure to read:



                    I find that peer review means NOTHING. Either the work is correct or it isn't. It doesn't matter how many supposed other experts looked at it, if they even bothered to, and supposedly reviewed it.

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                    • Peer review keeps most of the non establishment lunatics out but if the lunacy infects the establishment it is useless.
                      We hunt the hunters

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                      • From those links;
                        ....
                        Two common features of the current peer review system subvert the goals of science, and should be changed: The product of peer reviews generally can’t be seen by the scientific community, and reviewers are almost always anonymous. Although the vast majority of scientists living today have known only this approach, there is no compelling reason to continue using it and many reasons to revise it.

                        Today, the only people who are privy to the results of a peer review are the authors and the journal’s editors. I strongly believe such reviews should be part of the public record of science, just as the final published reports are. Why? There is a huge variation in the quality of reviews, from deep and insightful to shallow and misinformed. When peer review is cloaked in secrecy, there are limited incentives for performing high-quality reviews. That allows bias, carelessness, conflict of interest, and other deficiencies to persist without a way to penalize those who generate inadequate reviews.

                        Reading a paper in “final form” without access to the back-and-forth of reviews and editorial commentary deprives readers of key insights into how the research was conducted. Instead, we see a tidy but inaccurate portrayal that misrepresents the messy path that research often takes in going from the lab or clinic to publication. As a consequence, our ability to properly educate scientific trainees suffers, and our capacity to provide an accurate history of discovery is impaired.

                        Finally, public access to peer reviews would make it possible to examine the factors that influence the quality of peer review and editorial decision-making. With hidden reviews, such research is impossible, limiting needed improvements to the process. Related:
                        Why our peer review system is a toothless watchdog
                        ...
                        https://www.statnews.com/2016/12/05/...ocess-science/
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                        ...

                        THE DEFECTS OF PEER REVIEW

                        So we have little evidence on the effectiveness of peer review, but we have considerable evidence on its defects. In addition to being poor at detecting gross defects and almost useless for detecting fraud it is slow, expensive, profligate of academic time, highly subjective, something of a lottery, prone to bias, and easily abused.
                        ...
                        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1420798/
                        .................................................. ....................
                        Basically, "peer review" is a flawed system for those whom are ignorant and/or lazy in regards to science to default to the delusions of consensus and authority rather than empirical results and data.
                        TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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                        • Originally posted by bill shack View Post
                          Countries reach agreement on Paris climate accord rules at COP24

                          After two weeks of bruising negotiations, officials from almost 200 countries agreed Saturday on universal, transparent rules that will govern efforts to cut emissions and curb global warming. Fierce disagreements on two other climate issues were kicked down the road for a year to help bridge a chasm of opinions on the best solutions.

                          https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/cop24-...ange-1.4948027

                          and of course some of the largest oil producers in the world are fighting this agreement i wonder why ? U.S., Russia, Kuwait and Saudis block key climate study at COP24


                          https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/u...op24-1.4938765
                          The more scientifically accurate term would be "petroleum producers" which encompasses the fact that petroleum is used for production of synthetic materials; like "plastics", lubricants, and other chemical compounds in addition to "fuel" use. Of course those ignorant of science, industry, and economics will call it "oil" or "fossil fuel".
                          TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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                          • Now here's an item that could be presented in a few threads, but I'll start here to see if any can grasp the assorted implications and complications, etc. ...

                            China and Russia band together on controversial heating experiments to modify the atmosphere
                            • The countries are testing a technology for possible military application, say Chinese scientists involved in the project
                            • Militaries have been in a race to control the ionosphere, which allows radio signals to bounce long distances for communication, for decades
                            PUBLISHED : Monday, 17 December, 2018, 3:31am
                            UPDATED : Tuesday, 18 December, 2018, 7:37am
                            ...
                            A total of five experiments were carried out in June. One, on June 7, caused physical disturbance over an area as large as 126,000 sq km (49,000 square miles), or about half the size of Britain.

                            The modified zone, looming more than 500km (310 miles) high over Vasilsursk, a small Russian town in eastern Europe, experienced an electric spike with 10 times more negatively charged subatomic particles than surrounding regions.

                            In another experiment on June 12, the temperature of thin, ionised gas in high altitude increased more than 100 degrees Celsius (212 degrees Fahrenheit) because of the particle flux.

                            The particles, or electrons, were pumped into the sky by Sura, an atmospheric heating facility in Vasilsursk built by the former Soviet Union’s military during the cold war.
                            ...
                            https://www.scmp.com/news/china/scie...ng-experiments
                            .....
                            Looks rather similar to our HAARP array in Alaska ...
                            TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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                            • Climate Change War on Christmas
                              TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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                              • Greenland is melting even in winter and Canada’s glaciers are terminally warm

                                https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/f48f32e...g-even-in.html

                                Australia braces for record-breaking temperatures as heatwave hits continent


                                "Ask not what your country can do for you"

                                Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

                                you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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