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    • Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
      Good one/poster and a point I've been trying to get through for a long time here on this subject.
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      • The climate change boondoggle
        EXCERPT:
        ...
        So why does Barack Obama act like Don Quixote jousting windmills (or in Obama’s case, building them)?

        Michael Hart, a former official in Canada’s Department of Foreign Affairs and currently a professor at the acclaimed Carleton University in Ottawa, Canada, believes he understands what is behind Obama’s obsession with climate change despite the fact that there has been no net warming over the first decade and a half of the 21st century. (To compensate for this inconvenient truth, Hart says the alarmist movement is relying extensively on flawed computer models to make its case.)

        In his book, Hubris: The Troubling Science, Economics and Politics of Climate Change, published just last year, Hart makes the case that the global warming movement has little to do with hard science and much to do with global politics.

        In an August 18, 2016, interview with LifeSiteNews, Hart said:

        More than one motivation drives the abuse of science. Among scientists, the primary reasons are money, career advancement and prestige. In order to pursue their research programs, scientists need money from governments and foundations. They have learned that satisfying the agenda of both helps funds to flow. As a result, they have learned to adapt their research to the desired outcomes…

        The leaders driving the climate change movement come from a variety of persuasions. The environmental movement found in the alarm about global warming — now climate change — a potent new way in which to raise funds and increase awareness of its broader concerns about the state of the environment. UN officials learned that concern about climate change could be harnessed to bolster support for UN social and economic programs and to advance the UN’s goal of world governance by experts. Left-wing politicians discovered in climate change renewed ways to press their agenda of social and economic justice through coercive government programs.

        Sometimes you can catch a progressive with their guard down. Such was the case with Timothy Wirth, former U.S. Senator and chief climate envoy during the Clinton administration.

        “We’ve got to ride the global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing,” said Wirth
        ...
        http://personalliberty.com/climate-change-boondoggle/
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        • 7 Things You Need To Know About Global Warming
          EXCERPTS:
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          1. A few decades ago the media and many in the scientific community were in hysterics over global cooling.
          ...
          2. There is no consensus that global warming is a man-made phenomenon that requires "urgent" action.
          ...
          3. Some global warming alarmist scientists weren't able to get the results they wanted, so they tampered with the data.
          ...
          4. There has simply not been a lot of global warming in recent years.
          ...
          5. The sea levels are not rising by record levels, and there has not been an increase in extreme weather events.
          ...
          6. There is evidence to suggest that it is actually higher temperatures that result in higher levels of CO2.
          ...
          7. Not only will the left's "solutions" to global warming do little to actually stop warming, they would cause massive harm to the economy.
          ...
          http://www.dailywire.com/news/9119/7...aign=position2
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          • Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
            7 Things You Need To Know About Global Warming
            EXCERPTS:
            ...
            1. A few decades ago the media and many in the scientific community were in hysterics over global cooling.
            ...
            2. There is no consensus that global warming is a man-made phenomenon that requires "urgent" action.
            ...
            3. Some global warming alarmist scientists weren't able to get the results they wanted, so they tampered with the data.
            ...
            4. There has simply not been a lot of global warming in recent years.
            ...
            5. The sea levels are not rising by record levels, and there has not been an increase in extreme weather events.
            ...
            6. There is evidence to suggest that it is actually higher temperatures that result in higher levels of CO2.
            ...
            7. Not only will the left's "solutions" to global warming do little to actually stop warming, they would cause massive harm to the economy.
            ...
            http://www.dailywire.com/news/9119/7...aign=position2
            1. True
            2. True
            3. True
            4. True
            5. True
            6. Partially True - About half of the rise in CO2 since 1850 is anthropogenic.
            7. True
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            • Originally posted by The Doctor View Post
              1. True
              2. True
              3. True
              4. True
              5. True
              6. Partially True - About half of the rise in CO2 since 1850 is anthropogenic.
              7. True
              Half that rise works out to about 50ppm IIRC.
              Still leaves only about a third excess over bare optimal minimum for 99% of life(Flora) on this planet.
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              • Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
                Half that rise works out to about 50ppm IIRC.
                Still leaves only about a third excess over bare optimal minimum for 99% of life(Flora) on this planet.
                Yep... And with a well-documented climate sensitivity (TCR) of 1.3°C per doubling of atmospheric CO2, the total greenhouse-driven warming from 1850 to 2100 will be 1.3°C, half of which will have been 100% natural.
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                • Oral arguments will begin next week Tues. Good luck WVA!



                  On Sept. 27, the en banc panel of the United States District Court for the District of Columbia will preside over oral argument in State of West Virginia v. Environmental Protection Agency.

                  This will likely be one of the most momentous cases ever to be decided by any federal court.

                  At issue: Twenty-eight states and numerous private companies and trade associations are challenging an EPA regulation that seeks to cut carbon dioxide emissions in the energy industry by over 30 percent and nationalize the country’s electric power grid. The 1,500-page regulation, known as the Clean Power Plan, would give the federal government authority over how states use their natural resources.

                  The Clean Power Plan mandates carbon dioxide cuts to America’s power fleet, forcing states to make difficult, costly decisions such as switching from reliable conventional fuels to intermittent, expensive renewables, such as wind and solar.

                  http://dailysignal.com/2016/09/22/wi...as-power-grab/
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                  • No big shift in U.S. flood patterns despite climate change: study

                    U.S. flooding patterns have shown some regional changes but no countrywide shift despite heavier rains spawned by global warming, a study by U.S. and Austrian researchers said on Wednesday.

                    Findings that the biggest changes were in the Upper Mississippi Valley, northern Great Plains and New England could help focus resources in dealing with a changing climate, said Stacey Archfield, a U.S. Geological Survey hydrologist and one of the study's authors.

                    "It's a much more nuanced approach than saying, 'We know change is happening everywhere and this is a particular solution for it,'" she said.

                    In weighing the impact climate change is having on flooding, researchers from the Geological Survey and Austria's Vienna University of Technology analyzed records from 345 stream gauges in the conterminous United States from 1940 to 2013.

                    The gauges covered 70 percent of the lower 48 states. The first 30 years served as a base period.

                    The results concluded that most of the United States had shown no major change since 1970 in the categories of flood frequency, peak magnitude, duration and volume.
                    ...
                    http://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/top...udy/ar-BBwKyKK
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                    • Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
                      No big shift in U.S. flood patterns despite climate change: study

                      U.S. flooding patterns have shown some regional changes but no countrywide shift despite heavier rains spawned by global warming, a study by U.S. and Austrian researchers said on Wednesday.

                      Findings that the biggest changes were in the Upper Mississippi Valley, northern Great Plains and New England could help focus resources in dealing with a changing climate, said Stacey Archfield, a U.S. Geological Survey hydrologist and one of the study's authors.

                      "It's a much more nuanced approach than saying, 'We know change is happening everywhere and this is a particular solution for it,'" she said.

                      In weighing the impact climate change is having on flooding, researchers from the Geological Survey and Austria's Vienna University of Technology analyzed records from 345 stream gauges in the conterminous United States from 1940 to 2013.

                      The gauges covered 70 percent of the lower 48 states. The first 30 years served as a base period.

                      The results concluded that most of the United States had shown no major change since 1970 in the categories of flood frequency, peak magnitude, duration and volume.
                      ...
                      http://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/top...udy/ar-BBwKyKK
                      This is at least the second peer reviewed paper to draw the same conclusion over the past ten years... which is two more than the number of papers supporting the mythical 97% consensus.
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                      • Record Global Cooling Over The Last Eight Months
                        Posted on November 13, 2016 by tonyheller

                        Over the last eight months, global temperatures over land have cooled a record 1.2 C. November is seeing record cold in Russia and South Australia, so we should see the record cooling trend continue.

                        screen-shot-2016-11-13-at-8-11-06-pm

                        www.woodfortrees.org/data/rss-land/

                        As temperatures cool at a record pace, experts say global warming is now unstoppable.
                        http://realclimatescience.com/2016/1...-eight-months/
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                        • What's wrong with this picture?

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                          • Well, the North Pole is always frozen over, there's no open water there... In fact, you can drive on the ice to the North Pole...

                            As these gets proved. It's also legal to drink and drive in international "waters."



                            Then there's the 36 degrees thing. What's the "normal" temperature there? How long was it up that much? Is that in Fahrenheit or Celsius? Or, do they mean it reached 36 degrees? The wording seems a bit ambiguous.

                            And, of course, stating what anyone but a total moron knows... There are no Penguins at the North Pole. Unless... maybe it's this guy...



                            Oh, I might add, that picture is almost certainly Photo shopped. Look at the shadows. The Penguin's is facing the wrong direction compared to that of the ice around it.
                            Last edited by T. A. Gardner; 29 Nov 16, 19:20.

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                            • Record cold coming to ‘almost entire USA’ – Low temperature records set to be SHATTERED
                              http://www.climatedepot.com/2016/11/...st-entire-usa/
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                              • From the Science Forum, other threads on this subject, here for a reference/index;

                                Global Warming a Hoax?
                                http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forum...d.php?t=156459
                                Second largest 2-month drop in global temperature ever recorded by satellites!
                                http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forum...d.php?t=171365
                                Global Cooling - on its way ...
                                http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forum...d.php?t=154269
                                More bad news for the Gorebots: "Rise in CO2 has 'greened Planet Earth'"
                                http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forum...d.php?t=169664
                                "7 Earth Day 1970 Predictions That Were Just Dead Wrong"
                                http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forum...d.php?t=169600
                                More bad news for the Gorebots: Greenland ice sheet not collapsing.
                                http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forum...d.php?t=167295
                                This just in: Ice Age postponed due to global warming!
                                http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forum...d.php?t=166671
                                Global Climate change - a layman's guide
                                http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forum...d.php?t=148996
                                This one is classic ...
                                More bad news for the Gorebots...
                                http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forum...d.php?t=139117
                                From "the department of 'global warming causes everything'": Godwin's Law
                                http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forum...d.php?t=165531
                                "Ooops! New NASA study: Antarctica isn’t losing ice mass after all !"
                                http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forum...d.php?t=164921
                                "Peak Environmental Impact"... The final nail in the coffin of Malthusianism?
                                http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forum...d.php?t=163673
                                Efforts to mitigate climate change could cause 8-fold increase in hunger.
                                http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forum...d.php?t=162153
                                Arctic scientific expedition delayed by worst summer sea ice "in 20 years."
                                http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forum...d.php?t=161784
                                "Study finds surprisingly high geothermal heating beneath West Antarctic Ice Sheet"
                                http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forum...d.php?t=161384
                                Religion endorses religion of climate change
                                http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forum...d.php?t=160495
                                Gorebots want to make their research inaccessible to the public.
                                http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forum...d.php?t=160293
                                The Politics of Science
                                http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forum...d.php?t=157255
                                From the "No schist, Sherlock" Department: LBNL confirms so-called greenhouse effect
                                http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forum...d.php?t=157080

                                After going back thru 10 pages- could be more but stopped there.
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