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  • #46
    Originally posted by Emtos View Post

    It's you who're pushing the idea that US is helping Venezuela and the people. Why don't you simply say that's all about dominance ? Why the hypocrisy ?
    Iíve said nothing hypocritical.
    sending has nothing to do with dominance. Letting Venezuela starve would give us more dominance.

    The mental gymnastics you go through is amazing
    the answer is on the floor- john roseberry

    A tiger dies and leaves his fur,
    A man dies and leaves his name,
    A teacher dies and teaches death.
    Seikchi Toguchi 1917-1998

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Emtos View Post

      No normal left-wing politician will ally himself with US.
      so if theyíre not an outright socialist theyre right wing in your opinion?

      the answer is on the floor- john roseberry

      A tiger dies and leaves his fur,
      A man dies and leaves his name,
      A teacher dies and teaches death.
      Seikchi Toguchi 1917-1998

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      • #48
        Soldiers abandoning their posts.
        finally some good news.
        https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-47343918

        balancing that out Maduro supporters are burning food and medicine that would have helped them...
        https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...ters-colombia/
        the answer is on the floor- john roseberry

        A tiger dies and leaves his fur,
        A man dies and leaves his name,
        A teacher dies and teaches death.
        Seikchi Toguchi 1917-1998

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        • #49
          Originally posted by General_Jacke View Post
          Iíve said nothing hypocritical.
          sending has nothing to do with dominance. Letting Venezuela starve would give us more dominance.

          The mental gymnastics you go through is amazing
          It has all to do. It gives a friendly image for US and the opposition they support.
          There are no Nazis in Ukraine. © Idiots

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          • #50
            Originally posted by General_Jacke View Post
            so if theyíre not an outright socialist theyre right wing in your opinion?
            What other choice exist ? You're socialist or you aren't.
            There are no Nazis in Ukraine. © Idiots

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Emtos View Post

              What other choice exist ? You're socialist or you aren't.
              theres also communist, but socialis is very far left, and communism is extreme left.
              you can be a leftist and a capitalist like Bernie Sanders and the Nordic countries and well most of not all of europe, and not be either a socialist or a communist...you really arenít that bright are you?
              Last edited by General_Jacke; 23 Feb 19, 22:19.
              the answer is on the floor- john roseberry

              A tiger dies and leaves his fur,
              A man dies and leaves his name,
              A teacher dies and teaches death.
              Seikchi Toguchi 1917-1998

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Emtos View Post

                It has all to do. It gives a friendly image for US and the opposition they support.
                What?
                the US is sending aid.
                maduro is preventing aid from getting to the people...it has nothing to do with dominance.
                the US already has dominance.
                the answer is on the floor- john roseberry

                A tiger dies and leaves his fur,
                A man dies and leaves his name,
                A teacher dies and teaches death.
                Seikchi Toguchi 1917-1998

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by General_Jacke View Post
                  What?
                  the US is sending aid.
                  maduro is preventing aid from getting to the people...it has nothing to do with dominance.
                  the US already has dominance.
                  For a Communist (even the ones that call themselves Socialists) the well-bing of the human resources under their control come in a distant 2nd to Political considerations.

                  You are seeing the proof of that in the attitude of the Venezuelan Government.... and how they post right here on this very thread.

                  Hideous, aren't they?





                  Originally posted by General_Jacke View Post
                  Soldiers abandoning their posts.
                  finally some good news.
                  https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-47343918
                  Good news indeed, even the Govt's hired guns are running for it!
                  You know that they have been getting enough to eat, so its something else for them. The Rats are deserting the sinking ship.
                  Nobody wants to be the last one, that's the one that all the rest turn against.... uless he's already flying to Moscow with the rest of his country's Gold reserves.


                  QUOTE=General_Jacke;n5099114]balancing that out Maduro supporters are burning food and medicine that would have helped them...
                  https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...ters-colombia/[/QUOTE]


                  From that one -


                  Tthe most serious incident came hundreds of miles away, at the Santa Elena de Uairen crossing point on the southern border with Brazil.

                  Two people were killed and 31 wounded when troops blocking the entry of aid opened fire on civilians hoping to gather it, according to rights group Foro Penal.

                  "They are massacring the people of Venezuela in Santa Elena de Uairen and San Antonio, where from seven o'clock in the morning they did not allow Venezuelans to gather to bring in humanitarian aid," Guaido told reporters in Cucuta where he was coordinating the aid operation.

                  "From that moment, they deployed irregulars on Venezuelan territory, firing weapons to try to stop what is inevitable to stop," he said.

                  Note the use of "irregulars".
                  That's never a good thing, for anyone involved. When there is a line that normal soldiers and police won't cross, the worst Govts in the word turn out the most violent criminals they can find in their prisons, give them armbands and weapons, and send them out to terrorize everyone in sight.

                  Just like the Bashi Bazooks of the late Ottoman Empire or the Dirlewanger Brigade, the results are always horrific, and are a signal that the end is near for the regime that resorts to them.
                  Last edited by The Exorcist; 23 Feb 19, 21:44.
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by The Exorcist View Post

                    For a Communist (even the ones that call themselves Socialists) the well-bing of the human resources under their control come in a distant 2nd to Political considerations.

                    You are seeing the proof of that in the attitude of the Venezuelan Government.... and how they post right here on this very thread.

                    Hideous, aren't they?







                    Good news indeed, even the Govt's hired guns are running for it!
                    You know that they have been getting enough to eat, so its something else for them. The Rats are deserting the sinking ship.
                    Nobody wants to be the last one, that's the one that all the rest turn against.... uless he's already flying to Moscow with the rest of his country's Gold reserves.


                    QUOTE=General_Jacke;n5099114]balancing that out Maduro supporters are burning food and medicine that would have helped them...
                    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...ters-colombia/

                    From that one -





                    Note the use of "irregulars".
                    That's never a good thing, for anyone involved. When there is a line that normal soldiers and police won't cross, the worst Govts in the word turn out the most violent criminals they can find in their prisons, give them armbands and weapons, and send them out to terrorize everyone in sight.

                    Just like the Bashi Bazooks of the late Ottoman Empire or the Dirlewanger Brigade, the results are always horrific, and are a signal that the end is near for the regime that resorts to them. [/QUOTE]
                    Pro-Maduro gangs have been doing his *really* dirty work for a while
                    the answer is on the floor- john roseberry

                    A tiger dies and leaves his fur,
                    A man dies and leaves his name,
                    A teacher dies and teaches death.
                    Seikchi Toguchi 1917-1998

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Emtos View Post

                      Looks like US gets his Gleiwitz incident...
                      Or Gulf of Tonkin for that matter.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by General_Jacke View Post
                        Letting Venezuela starve would give us more dominance.
                        Well, a naive question: what is the tonnage of food sent to Venezuela? BBC says about "hundreds tons of foreign aid". The most basic math says that 300 tons of food for 30 million population means about 10 grams per men. Sure as hell that is a purely token number which doesn't determine if Venezuela would starve or not.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by General_Jacke View Post
                          What?
                          the US is sending aid.
                          maduro is preventing aid from getting to the people...it has nothing to do with dominance.
                          the US already has dominance.
                          It has to do. Food isn't free. It's clearly a political action.image_80614.jpgimage_80613.jpg
                          There are no Nazis in Ukraine. © Idiots

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by General_Jacke View Post
                            theres also communist, but socialis is very far left, and communism is extreme left.
                            you can be a leftist and a capitalist like Bernie Sanders and the Nordic countries and well most of not all of europe, and not be either a socialist or a communist...you really arenít that bright are you?
                            You cannot be a leftist and a capitalist. Bernie Sanders has nothing of left. All those who accept the existence of very rich persons in society, aren't leftist by definition.
                            There are no Nazis in Ukraine. © Idiots

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Emtos View Post

                              You cannot be a leftist and a capitalist. Bernie Sanders has nothing of left. All those who accept the existence of very rich persons in society, aren't leftist by definition.
                              ummm you realize that the left/right spectrum has a lot more to it than that right?

                              by your own definition Maduro isnít a leftist since heís wealthy by comparison with his average citizen.

                              youre just so desperate to try to make the US into some demonic evil doers youíre pulling random bullshit from no where
                              the answer is on the floor- john roseberry

                              A tiger dies and leaves his fur,
                              A man dies and leaves his name,
                              A teacher dies and teaches death.
                              Seikchi Toguchi 1917-1998

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Artyom_A View Post
                                Well, a naive question: what is the tonnage of food sent to Venezuela? BBC says about "hundreds tons of foreign aid". The most basic math says that 300 tons of food for 30 million population means about 10 grams per men. Sure as hell that is a purely token number which doesn't determine if Venezuela would starve or not.
                                Thereís only so much room to store it so only so much can be sent until the first bunch is delivered.

                                we also know the security forces are being taken care of, and the wealthy are doing ok so that eases the burden from 30million downward.
                                Then thereís the 3 million or more that have fled to other countries...so 10 percent of the population decided to boogey on out already, reducing the strain on the aid shipments even further
                                Last edited by General_Jacke; 24 Feb 19, 11:31.
                                the answer is on the floor- john roseberry

                                A tiger dies and leaves his fur,
                                A man dies and leaves his name,
                                A teacher dies and teaches death.
                                Seikchi Toguchi 1917-1998

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