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  • #31
    Originally posted by General_Jacke View Post

    Forces of order? That doesn’t even have any meaning. The greatapo and SS were forces of order. Doesn’t mean they were morally or ethically justified in their actions...you’re an apologist for dictators and despots apparently.

    they were trying to help the thug boss starve the people of Venezuela.
    Morality and ethics have no place in national interests. It's in the interests of military to support the government and fight against yankee xenos and their local puppets.
    There are no Nazis in Ukraine. © Idiots

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Emtos View Post

      Morality and ethics have no place in national interests. It's in the interests of military to support the government and fight against yankee xenos and their local puppets.
      You’re definitely morally challenged like Maduro.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Snowshoveler View Post

        You’re definitely morally challenged like Maduro.
        Maduro isn't morally challenged. He didn't bombed other countries, organised coups, tortured prisoners and did other things which US does. He is the good guy in the story.
        There are no Nazis in Ukraine. © Idiots

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        • #34
          He did nothing wrong. Sorry but no new Right-wing dictators in Venezuela.
          There are no Nazis in Ukraine. © Idiots

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          • #35
            And today Maduro's forces gunned down unarmed protesters killing two and wounding 17 more:
            https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/22/ameri...ntl/index.html
            At least two people have died and 17 were injured Friday in a standoff between a local indigenous community and the Venezuelan military over deliveries of humanitarian aid, according to local authorities.
            But no worries, I'm sure our resident Russians will be along shortly to tell us about the secret Yankee imperialist plot to invade Venezuela and steal their oil. Let me guess! The ships ferrying supplies to Colombia are actually filled with Navy SEALs to seize Maracaibo oil refineries right?

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Emtos View Post
              He did nothing wrong. Sorry but no new Right-wing dictators in Venezuela.
              Nice try! Guaido is actually a democratic socialist and his party belongs to Socialist International.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_Will
              describes itself as a progressive social-democratic[2][3]political party in Venezuela admitted into the Socialist International in December 2014
              A little research goes a long way ...

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Emtos View Post

                Morality and ethics have no place in national interests. It's in the interests of military to support the government and fight against yankee xenos and their local puppets.
                And that’s all we needed to hear you say.

                you just admitted to supporting dictators, but if morality and ethics have no place in national interest then why are you so upset at the thought of the US covertly intervening in world affairs? After all they’re serving their own national interests and morality and ethics doesn’t matter...so what does it matter to you what the US does or where they do it?
                the answer is on the floor- john roseberry

                A tiger dies and leaves his fur,
                A man dies and leaves his name,
                A teacher dies and teaches death.
                Seikchi Toguchi 1917-1998

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by ChrisF1987 View Post
                  And today Maduro's forces gunned down unarmed protesters killing two and wounding 17 more:
                  https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/22/ameri...ntl/index.html


                  But no worries, I'm sure our resident Russians will be along shortly to tell us about the secret Yankee imperialist plot to invade Venezuela and steal their oil. Let me guess! The ships ferrying supplies to Colombia are actually filled with Navy SEALs to seize Maracaibo oil refineries right?
                  You’re late to the party. We’ve been talking about it all day.
                  the answer is on the floor- john roseberry

                  A tiger dies and leaves his fur,
                  A man dies and leaves his name,
                  A teacher dies and teaches death.
                  Seikchi Toguchi 1917-1998

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Emtos View Post
                    He did nothing wrong. Sorry but no new Right-wing dictators in Venezuela.
                    Left-wing dictators are the only good kind?
                    the answer is on the floor- john roseberry

                    A tiger dies and leaves his fur,
                    A man dies and leaves his name,
                    A teacher dies and teaches death.
                    Seikchi Toguchi 1917-1998

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Emtos View Post

                      Maduro isn't morally challenged. He didn't bombed other countries, organised coups, tortured prisoners and did other things which US does. He is the good guy in the story.
                      What was that about not torturing prisoners?
                      https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.mia...215033815.html

                      but I thought morals and ethics has no place in national interests...so there’s no such thing as good guys and bad guys...

                      youre really bad at remaining consistent...

                      the answer is on the floor- john roseberry

                      A tiger dies and leaves his fur,
                      A man dies and leaves his name,
                      A teacher dies and teaches death.
                      Seikchi Toguchi 1917-1998

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                        Okay, I did.
                        Thanks for info, however the point stands. Venezuela military is nowhere near huge in absolute or relative terms. The amount of their military spending is quite small and doesn't correspond to the idea of a hyper-militarized state. Moreover, given a meager funding of their military forces in recent crisis years it's very doubtful that their real combat value is proportional to nominal numbers.

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                        • #42
                          More clashes over aid
                          https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...5FhQG7jT8KVHVM
                          the answer is on the floor- john roseberry

                          A tiger dies and leaves his fur,
                          A man dies and leaves his name,
                          A teacher dies and teaches death.
                          Seikchi Toguchi 1917-1998

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by ChrisF1987 View Post

                            Nice try! Guaido is actually a democratic socialist and his party belongs to Socialist International.

                            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_Will

                            A little research goes a long way ...
                            No normal left-wing politician will ally himself with US.
                            There are no Nazis in Ukraine. © Idiots

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by General_Jacke View Post
                              And that’s all we needed to hear you say.

                              you just admitted to supporting dictators, but if morality and ethics have no place in national interest then why are you so upset at the thought of the US covertly intervening in world affairs? After all they’re serving their own national interests and morality and ethics doesn’t matter...so what does it matter to you what the US does or where they do it?
                              It's you who're pushing the idea that US is helping Venezuela and the people. Why don't you simply say that's all about dominance ? Why the hypocrisy ?
                              There are no Nazis in Ukraine. © Idiots

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Emtos View Post

                                No normal left-wing politician will ally himself with US.
                                Stalin WW2 ring a bell? You’re right that he wasn’t normal.

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