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  • Originally posted by Emtos View Post
    Looks like Guaido pathetically failed again. Maduro should arrest him and judge for treason and coup.
    lol, yet you don't see maduro as a pathetic failure who couldn't keep a rich country rich with a strong economy....
    the answer is on the floor- john roseberry

    A tiger dies and leaves his fur,
    A man dies and leaves his name,
    A teacher dies and teaches death.
    Seikchi Toguchi 1917-1998

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    • Originally posted by General_Jacke View Post
      again you have no legal basis.

      what corrupt conservatives? what corrupt liberals? what corruption specifically?
      All your major politicians with all the lobbies. They give money and then get positions in return.
      There are no Nazis in Ukraine. Idiots

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      • Originally posted by General_Jacke View Post

        lol, yet you don't see maduro as a pathetic failure who couldn't keep a rich country rich with a strong economy....
        He has popular support. It's enough. Btw he never had a rich country.
        There are no Nazis in Ukraine. Idiots

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        • What a pathetic attempt of coup.

          Looks like Spetsnaz did their job great.
          Fortess fortuan adiuvat

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          • I see things with the current opposition against Maduro this way. If the opposition wins and Maduro gets tossed out, Venezuela will begin to recover economically and socially. If Maduro manages to keep in power and suppress the opposition watch for him to start making mass arrests and imprisonments. This will force the opposition to flee the country or hide.
            If that happens the Venezuelan economy will continue to tank until Venezuela is as poor and broke d!c* as Cuba or N. Korea are. Maduro will continue to build up the military in both size and offensive power. This will then be used by him to intimidate his neighbors as he ramps up the anti-American rhetoric on whom he'll blame all of his social and economic problems just as Castro did and Kim Jong Il does today.
            Internally, Venezuela will continue to experience an upward spiraling crime and murder problem, along with endless low grade violence by the opposition. The country will become a failed state ruled by a vicious thug of a dictator hell bent on keeping power.

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            • Recover economically like Ukraine ? Or Maybe Iraq ? Or Afghanistan ? Libya maybe ? There is nothing to indicate a recovery.
              There are no Nazis in Ukraine. Idiots

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              • Originally posted by Emtos View Post
                Recover economically like Ukraine ? Or Maybe Iraq ? Or Afghanistan ? Libya maybe ? There is nothing to indicate a recovery.
                Maduro and the heavy dose of Socialism goes away, Venezuela's economy recovers. He and his thugs retain power and keep going down the path to full Socialism, and Venezuela becomes a total basket case just like say, Zimbabwe.

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                • Originally posted by Emtos View Post
                  Recover economically like Ukraine ? Or Maybe Iraq ? Or Afghanistan ? Libya maybe ? There is nothing to indicate a recovery.
                  ukraine is still in a state of conflict caused by russia...so no their economy hasn't recovered.

                  as for afghanistan, they may be experiencing a recession right now due to the ISIS factor, but their economy seems to have been doing pretty good

                  https://www.google.com/publicdata/ex...ND&hl=en&dl=en

                  love how you blame shitty situations on other countries on the US.

                  ​​​​​​https://tradingeconomics.com/afghanistan/gdp

                  do you even look up facts before you spout your propaganda, or naw?
                  Last edited by General_Jacke; 03 May 19, 17:41.
                  the answer is on the floor- john roseberry

                  A tiger dies and leaves his fur,
                  A man dies and leaves his name,
                  A teacher dies and teaches death.
                  Seikchi Toguchi 1917-1998

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                  • Conflict in Ukraine goes on in a small region and on a small scale. They had all the chances to stop it but prefer to continue. Afghanistan was in deep trouble for years. There is nothing which indicates that a regime change in Venezuela will improve something.
                    There are no Nazis in Ukraine. Idiots

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                    • Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

                      Maduro and the heavy dose of Socialism goes away, Venezuela's economy recovers. He and his thugs retain power and keep going down the path to full Socialism, and Venezuela becomes a total basket case just like say, Zimbabwe.
                      Or maybe become capitalist paradise like Haiti or Honduras.
                      Fortess fortuan adiuvat

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                      • Originally posted by hawker_gb View Post

                        Or maybe become capitalist paradise like Haiti or Honduras.
                        Honduras has recently suffered a "Venezuela" with their Libre Party and now past President Zelaya (who was forcibly removed from office after trying to make himself President for life).

                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_and_Refoundation

                        You might note they're one of the actors in organizing the caravans of illegals coming to the US...

                        Haiti on the other hand-- Does it even have an economy...?

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                        • Originally posted by hawker_gb View Post

                          Or maybe become capitalist paradise like Haiti or Honduras.
                          In the case of Haiti...the UN has done more long term damage to that country than the 2010 earthquake.


                          Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                          Haiti on the other hand-- Does it even have an economy...?
                          Corruption, dictators, nepotism and combined with general outside influence and interference has long prevented Haiti from having anything viable and good.


                          There is potential..but that is all. I don't think Haiti would be allowed to have a prospering economy if it could.
                          Last edited by asterix; 03 May 19, 08:53.
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                          -General Charles de Gaulle

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                          • Originally posted by Emtos View Post
                            Conflict in Ukraine goes on in a small region and on a small scale. They had all the chances to stop it but prefer to continue. Afghanistan was in deep trouble for years. There is nothing which indicates that a regime change in Venezuela will improve something.
                            oh look iraq seems to have been doing pretty good as of late as well. even better than they were under saddam.
                            https://www.google.com/publicdata/ex...SR&hl=en&dl=en

                            https://data.worldbank.org/country/iraq

                            as for how dismissive you are of the ukrainian conflict, ukraine isn't a massive nation, so a small conflict will greatly effect them.

                            britain, france, and russia had a chance to end the war in europe during WWII as well, like ukraine now has, but like ukraine they chose not to roll over for an aggressor nation.
                            but even ukraine was doing good before the current conflict...a recession in 2008 or so, but they climbed their way out. as of 2013 they were doing way better than they were under the soviets and in 2016 they were still way above the 1989 GDP they had under the soviets...so what exactly is the point you're trying to make?

                            https://www.google.com/publicdata/ex...LR&hl=en&dl=en
                            the answer is on the floor- john roseberry

                            A tiger dies and leaves his fur,
                            A man dies and leaves his name,
                            A teacher dies and teaches death.
                            Seikchi Toguchi 1917-1998

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                            • Originally posted by hawker_gb View Post

                              Or maybe become capitalist paradise like Haiti or Honduras.
                              You forgot to add Puerto Rico to it.

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                              • Originally posted by Konzev View Post

                                You forgot to add Puerto Rico to it.
                                Or Colombia.

                                Another great example of capitalist paradise.
                                Fortess fortuan adiuvat

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