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  • Poor Old Spike
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    Originally posted by Bo Archer View Post
    Johnson's reputation with the World is too much out of the interest of the thread. Now we surely would not want to distract from the thread would we? Where do you stand on the subject herein?
    The thread is titled 'JFK Assassination' and my stance is that if some country or organisation killed Kennedy, they must have wanted Johnson to step into his shoes, and I'm trying to figger out why exactly they liked Johnson better.

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  • Bo Archer
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    If it pleases the Court, I would like to cross examine some of the testimony presented as historical truth in posts #943, #944, #945 and elsewhere in this Noble Forum.

    Now it is implicated that the critical gap in time, between the beginning of the downfall of the Batista Dictatorship and the final consolidation of the Castor State, is that period in which, if properly and timely acted upon, the U.S. Government could have stopped the Cuban Revolution, by having replaced Castro (a coup), or bought him off (a betrayal), to simply replace Batista Junta for a similar criminal governance of a Castro Junta (without communism). The acceptable excuse proposed is that Castro skillfully outplayed the U.S. Government while concealing a communist insurgency. This being built upon a equally brilliant Khrushchev gameplay of the Berlin affair and the claim (we have ICBMs) thus gaining the check of U.S. moves to invade the island and destroy the Revolution.

    Why should we accept this more formal official projections from the government???? We now know that powerful American corporations had vast amount of assets covering Cuba with many having as their corporate lawyers the Dulles brothers in the Sullivan Cromwell international law firm. These brothers now have a powerful influence in the Eisenhower Administration by way of Head of State Department and CIA Head Administrator. We now know these powerful Deep State elites were in secret talks with the Castro movement, to maintain their vast property assets, with its continued flow a large amounts of corrupt money payments to the power elites of Cuba, as compensation, to turn their heads and continue to allow the stealing of very valuable raw resources from the Cuban people.

    By August 1960, Castro terminated these deliberations in a final declaration but by then he had total control of the Army and the backing of the Soviet Union. Therefore in my humble opinion the Eisenhower Administration is at complete fault for having lost Cuba to communism because they were more interested in saving a massive profitable and criminal network of huge amounts American corporation assets in secret talks with Castro and out of the view of the American Public. Let us add maybe a billion dollars worth of American mafia assets in casinos and narcotics industry. We should not take their lie very seriously that they are fighting communism for the reasons of democracy and Christianity or should we?????

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  • Bo Archer
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    Half Pint John

    It is an honor Sir I enjoy your postings throughout this forum!

    I normally stay clear of fiction, but you remind me that it is a great place for those of an advance mind to ruminate effectively at various theories and speculations, that could promote fact finding that leads to the advancement of truthful history.

    On the item of interest you pose, a number of us follow the thesis that LHO is a national security state asset who played a pivot role in the Coup of 1963. He was trained as a sniper in the U.S. Marine and taught Russian. He was assigned to special operations, at vital spy plane base in Japan, and then went upon the infamous double agent role play to Russia. They had him working with the Marcello Organization and CIA Shaw in New Orleans getting himself painted as an agent of Castro.

    Now the agents of the Deep State want to paint him as the Lone Assassin Nut who killed JFK. Now we have what interested you: that ridiculous Italian rifle, that comes into play. LHO agent handlers had to select a type of rifle that perhaps a Lone Nut Gunman, in their sick and stupid minds, would believed likely to purchase. They came up with the notion that such a Nut would mail order it from a traceable magazine plus it was not be of U.S. manufacture but an Italian one. (Never forget LHO is a Federal trained sniper living in the most advance gun culture on Earth which poses the question of why would LHO do this????) Not only this but consider their additional brain storming idea of placement of an unblemished slug from said Italian rifle near the body of JFK at the hospital. How stupid of an idea as this which is insulting to our intelligence as if more were needed.

    I may further point out that upon their staged photo shot with LHO supposed standing in the yard with this said rifle holding up a newspaper appeared to many in the Public to be faked. Further note that many believe LHO never knew or was told that he was to die that fated day in Dallas but instead David Ferrie was to fly him to Mexico or elsewhere safely. At some point, after the shooting, LHO saw through and it occurred to him that if he did not attempt to escape he was going to be a dead man. Did the staged photo with the Italian rifle began LHO mind clicking about a betrayal going down??????????

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  • Bo Archer
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    Poor Old Spike

    Welcome to Cope's Thread!

    Any honest question in regards to JFK issue forward to the Good Forum is in good taste. You ask an excellent question: which country would want JFK killed? For myself the answer appears, based upon the evidence and research of many, that country that grew up secretly within the bowels of the United States of America. It is called the DEEP STATE as defined in detail by Peter Dale Scott and a host of others many properly introduced upon this thread. If you are an apologist for or a duped innocent victim of that DEEP STATE you must claim that the old Soviet Union/Cuba were the countries who sought the death of JFK by way of their asset Lee Harvey Oswald. The Warren Commission (aka Dulles Commission) presented the highly suspected evidence to assist you in this position.

    Johnson's reputation with the World is too much out of the interest of the thread. Now we surely would not want to distract from the thread would we? Where do you stand on the subject herein?

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  • Half Pint John
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    I'm usually not much for the conspiracy items but JFK's murder is the exception.

    Starting with the weapon of choice. Of all the Surplus rifles out there he picked a piece of ****. In the same time period I had a K91 and a friend had two Lee–Enfield. Both far and away superior rifles.

    I'm in the process of reading a fiction titled "The Third Bullet"" buy Steven Hunter. It brings out many good questions about the killing.

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  • Poor Old Spike
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    Just to digress slightly,which countries were glad to see Kennedy gone?
    And did they like Johnson better?

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  • Bo Archer
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    Here's more of the same very valuable source as it reveals the evil pitfall that waits the eventual arrival of the doomed JFK:

    "5 November, Eisenhower hinted publicly that protection of U.S. lives and interests in Cuba WOULD BE GROUNDS FOR INTERVENTION, and he did so in language nearly identical to that which he used just before U.S. intervention in Lebanon earlier in the year. Eisenhower might well have intervened in Cuba had Khrushchev not thrown the world into another major crisis five days later. In a 10 November speech, Khrushchev suddenly called on the Western Powers to get out of Berlin. Eisenhower later said this Soviet challenge had transformed Berlin "into a tinderbox." In a 14 November speech, Khrushchev further escalated the crisis by FALSELY DECLARING that the Soviet Union had begun production of inter-continental ballistic missiles (ICBM's). Whether by coincidence or BY DESIGN, Khrushchev manufactured to Berlin crisis and his latest missile threat at the VERY MOMENT began his final drive to power."------

    "Khrushchev's gambit altered the American perception of the strategic balance of power at a crucial moment during the Cuban revolution. It was at this very moment that Castro's run for power led to Eisenhower Administration to review its options in Cuba. The choices Eisenhower made would GIVE THE CUBAN REVOLUTION THE BREATHING SPACE ITS NEEDS TO BECAME ENRENCHED."

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  • Bo Archer
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    Let's continue from same source:

    "Undaunted, Castro's forces began demanding "taxes" from American companies operating in eastern Cuba. On 25 October, a representative of Castro's forces met with a Texaco representative and demanded either $500,000 in cash or $300,000 in arms. Angry with the rebels and U.S. inaction, on 28 October officials from these American companies met in New York to discuss the problem. The following day in Washington, senior State Department officials listened to the heated complaints of several of these business leaders, including Kenneth R. Redmond, President of the UNITED FRUIT COMPANY; Robert J. Kleberg, President of King Ranch; J.C. Carrington of the FREEPORT SULFUR Company; Harris F. Dodge of the Texas Company; and Mr. Hummel of the Lone Star Cement Company.----------

    "On 4 November, U.S. Ambassador Earl Smith cabled Washington, "It is essential that our government learn beyond doubt whether and to what extent Castro's movement is penetrated, supported, influenced or directed by international communism."--------

    "President Eisenhower needed, BUT WOULD NOT RECEIVE, THIS CRITICAL INFORMATION before a series of events would doom American policy in Cuba."

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  • Bo Archer
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    If it pleases the Court, I will now present the following information from the book: WHERE ANGELS TREAD LIGHTLY: THE ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT KENNEDY by the outstanding JFK researcher JOHN NEWMAN. This will assist in disclosing the collaborate activities of the Eisenhower Administration and the economic and national security state elites in their struggle against Castro's movement which sets the background for the Coup of 1963. Let us take a peek at the book:

    "In the summer and fall of 1958,Castro's forces staged a series of incidents that exposed the weakness of the Batista dictatorship and tested the limits of American forbearance in Cuba. On 22 June, Raul Castro issued Military Order Number 30, calling for the abduction of American citizens in his area>------------On 20 October, Castro's forces kidnapped two Texaco employees near Santiago. On 23 October, rebels forces released hostages and then promptly kidnapped two United Fruit employees (client company of the Dulles brother's law firm) and held them for a day. On 21 October, the rebels had seized the largest industrial complex in Cuba, the nickel plant at Nicaro, owned by the U.S. Government and run by the General Services Administration (formerly owned by Freeport Sulphur but who still has controlling ownership to the nickel being mined) (remember Freeport Sulphur is a client company of the Dulles brothers law firm and they were involved in the sweetheart deal with the US government in this nickel ore). This nickel plant at Nicaro had been built during the WWII to ensure U.S. strategic supplies. Castro's seizure of this facility LED EISENHOWER TO RAISE THE SPECTER OF U.S. INTERVENTION BY DISPACTING WARSHIPS TO CUBA. He ordered the U.S. attack transport KLEINSMITH TO NICARO on Cuba's northeast coast to assist in the evacuation of American dependents FROM THE PLANT. The President also ordered the U.S. aircraft carrier FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT to patrol nearby waters to back up the evacuation operations."

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  • GRA
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    Just received within the last 5 minutes this date:

    http://truedaily.news/2017/07/25/sho...sination-case/

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  • Bo Archer
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    Lisa Pease presented this reported documentation which I would welcome any commentary reflection upon:

    Source: New Orleans District Attorney's Office ---- memo from Sciambra to D.A. Jim Garrison, dated 10/09/1968:

    "Memo in the Guy Bannister (retired FBI still doing suspected contract work for FBI) file indicates that there is information which reports that Dick White, a high official of FREEPORT SULPHUR, and CLAY SHAW (CIA) were flown to CUBA probably taking off from Harvey Canal area (New Orleans area) in a FREEPORT SULPHUR PLANE piloted by DAVE FERRIE (Mafia/Carlos Marcello and suspected CIA contract work). The purpose of this trip was to setup import of Cuba's nickel ore to a Canadian front company which would in turn ship to the Braithwaite nickel plant (Braithwaite, Louisiana). The plant was built by the U.S. government at a cost of about one million dollars."

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  • Bo Archer
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    I am presenting the People's witness Lisa Pease's documentations so as to lay the groundwork upon which our readers may attempt to ascertain the motivation (as it relates to Cuba in this case) from which a political assassination of JFK was justified. JFK stood to obstruct those powerful elites who sought the national wealth of riches of the nations of Cuba, Indonesia, and the Congo. Much of these action areas evolves around Freeport Corporation and it showcase how the US government was used to secure the goals of these power elites. Admittedly, it does not stand as the only motivation to murder but it may turn out to be a major one.

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  • copenhagen
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    Any points to actually discuss?

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  • Bo Archer
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    Lisa Pease presented this NEW YORK TIMES article entitled: U.S. WAS PUSHED INTO BUYING NICKEL, SENATORS ARE TOLD, published 12/18/1962.

    "The article opened with this: "A federal official (Kennedy Administration) told Senate stockpile investigators today that the U.S. Government got a bad deal in a 1957 nickel purchase contract (Eisenhower/Dulles/Freeport) with the potential $248,000,000 obligation. John Croston, a division director in the GSA, testified that he had strongly opposed the contract with the Freeport Sulphur Company. But, he said, officials in the agency "knew that the contract was in the bag from the beginning." Pressure for it, he said, came from the Office of Defense Mobilization, then headed by Arthur S. Flemming, Dr. Arthur S. Femming was regularly a part of the National Security Council under Eisenhower. Right after Ike's election, in November of 1952, Dr. Femming served with Ike's brother Milton on the three-member President's Advisory Committee on Government Organization, headed by NELSON ROCKEFELLER. Perhaps it was his friendship with Nelson that caused some to accuse Dr. Flemming of some arm twisting on Freeport's behalf." (Note the brilliant distraction from the Dulles brothers and on to Nelson Rockefeller and his brother)

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  • Bo Archer
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    Now let's continue with Lisa Pease and allow her to reveal now this leads to more intense hatred for JFK.

    "these stockpiling investigation were already reeling from its losses over the Castro's appropriation of the Moa Bay plant. Freeport found itself under attack from a new quarter: a Senate investigation into stockpiling surpluses, requested by President Kennedy himself. In 1962, President Kennedy asked Congress to look into the war emergency stockpiling program, stating it was "a potential source of excessive and unconscionable profits." He said he was "astounded" to discover that the program had accumulated 7.7 billion worth of stockpiled material; excessing projected needs by 3.4 billion. Kennedy also pledged full executive cooperation with the investigation, mentioning specifically 103 million in surplus nickel. The Senate pursued an investigation into stockpiling surpluses. Special attention was paid to three companies in which the ROCKEFELLER BROTHERS HAD SUBSTANTIAL HOLDINGS: Hannah Mining, International Mining, and FREEPORT SULPHUR."

    "But the controversy flowed over into 1963, and Press Secretary Pierre Salinger stated the Kennedy Administration planned to make stockpiling an issue in the 1964 campaign. As we know, JFK didn't live long enough to fulfill THAT PROMISE."
    Last edited by Bo Archer; 25 Jun 17, 15:23.

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