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  • GRA
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    Perhaps the more yet to be learned will be revealed this coming Tuesday (04-25-2017) on the History Channel at 7 PM CST.

    That retired CIA agent that is on and off TV doing something like cold case investigations of the strange and mysterious is hosting something supposedly new about LHO.

    This is going to be interesting to watch and I plan on being glued to the TV when it's on. It has been advertised the information to be disclosed has been revealed by more declassified documents, FOIA requests, etc.,

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  • Bo Archer
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    Let's present the final days of defendant Clay Shaw as disclosed in the wonderful work: JFK: THE DEAD WITNESSES. I personally believe that Shaw was a highly valued Agent of the DEEP STATE (that state of power as defined by Peter Dale Scott) based on numerous professional researchers opinions. Shaw knew too much and had been too exposed to the public. Here's his ending:

    "In the end, Shaw was found "not guilty" of the charges leveled at him by Garrison. The jury, HOWEVER, did admit that they were NOW CONVINCED that the assassination of John F. Kennedy WAS A CONSPIRACY, and that there WAS MORE THAN ONE SHOOTER involved, but that Garrison SIMPLY DID NOT PROVE BEYOUND A REASONABLE DOUBT that Shaw was involved.

    Five years later Shaw died under extremely mysterious circumstances. He had just been interviewed by WASHINGTON POST columnist George Lardner (who later attempted to destroy Oliver Stone's movie JFK months before it was even released), and then before Shaw was even reported dead in his home, a neighbor observed an ambulance pulling in front of Shaw's house. Two ambulance attendants exited the ambulance, opened the rear doors, then pulled out a stretcher that appeared to be laden by a body under a sheet. They then carried into the house. A few minutes later, the two men came out of the house with an empty stretcher and left.

    A few hours later Shaw was "found dead in his house." His body was taken immediately to a local mortuary and EMBALMED BEFORE THE PARISH CORONER, DR. FRANK MINYARD, COULD EVEN BE NOTIFIED of Shaw's death. BY THE TIME MINYARD FOUND OUT ABOUT IT, SHAW'S BODY HAD ALREADY BEEN BURIED IN HIS HOMETOWN OF KENTWOOD. THE DEATH CERTIFICATE HAD BEEN SIGNED BY A DR. HUGH BETSON AND SHOWED THE CAUSE TO BE LUNG CANCER."

    Meanwhile, DR. MINYARD SMELLED A RAT and began DEMANDING that Shaw's body BE EXHUMED FOR AUTOPSY. But when the NEWS MEDIA (possible under CIA influence) found out, a GREAT HOWL went up that this WAS JUST ANOTHER STUNT BY GARRISON and that SHAW SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO REST IN PEACE. Minyard backed off and the situation died. NO AUTOPSY WAS EVER PERFORMED."

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  • copenhagen
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    Originally posted by Jose50 View Post
    Conspiracy theorist dies and goes to heaven and is successful in gaining an interview with God. He says, "God I have just one question for you and I hope that you can be honest with me"
    God says, "I'm God, I don't lie and who could you tell about it anyway? You're dead."
    "Good point." says the conspiracy theorist.
    "So, what's the question?", asks God.
    "Okay," the conspiracy theorist says, "be honest now. Who really killed JFK?"
    God answers, "It was Lee Harvey Oswald and he acted alone."
    The conspiracy theorist thinks, ("This goes deeper than I thought.")
    I don't think in any way Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone and there is great evidence to support that . However that really made me laugh .

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  • Jose50
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    ...been wondering where this thread had been hiding...

    Conspiracy theorist dies and goes to heaven and is successful in gaining an interview with God. He says, "God I have just one question for you and I hope that you can be honest with me"
    God says, "I'm God, I don't lie and who could you tell about it anyway? You're dead."
    "Good point." says the conspiracy theorist.
    "So, what's the question?", asks God.
    "Okay," the conspiracy theorist says, "be honest now. Who really killed JFK?"
    God answers, "It was Lee Harvey Oswald and he acted alone."
    The conspiracy theorist thinks, ("This goes deeper than I thought.")

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  • Bo Archer
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    Continue a brief peek at JFK: THE DEAD WITNESSES as it involves our defendant Clay Shaw and other codefendants:

    "During the Garrison investigation and subsequent trial of Clay Shaw, several interesting sidenotes occurred. First, while investigating Shaw, Garrisons men searched his house and were appalled at what they discovered. For example, they found two large hooks attached to the ceiling of Shaw's bedroom, along with five whips, lengths of chain, a cape and a black hood. It wasn't long until Garrison could confirm that Shaw, like his consort David Ferrie was a homosexual.

    They also found Shaw's personal address book, which contained many very interesting names both in the U.S. and abroad. But most significant was the name "Lee Odum, P.O. Box 19106, Dallas, Texas." This address was ALSO FOUND IN LEE OSWALD'S ADDRESS BOOK. And Garrison was soon to discover that "P.O. Box 19106" actually was A CODED REFERENCE TO JACK RUBY'S TELEPHONE NUMBER IN DALLAS. (Remember Rose Charemi claim that Jack Ruby and Lee Oswald were homosexually connected partners)

    While Garrison was probing Shaw, the U.S. government began interfering with the investigation. Attorney General Ramsey Clark announced that Shaw had already been investigated and HAD BEEN TOTALLY CLEARED OF ANY CONNECTION TO THE KENNEDY AFFAIR. Other Justice Department officials released statements that Garrison was ON A WITCH HUNT, and that the whole mess was nothing more than GRANDSTANDING ON GARRISON'S PART."

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  • Bo Archer
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    Let's look at another valuable source book: JFK: THE DEAD WITNESSES by ROBERT CRAIG. Its essential and make easy to see the patterns of death clusters laid out by the Assassins of the Deep State (time periods around the Coup date, the Garrison investigation, and Congress investigations).

    Here's a teaser from the book related to our Court Defendant Clay Shaw and the powerful CIA money machine known as PERMINDEX at that time period:

    "Jim Marrs, in his CROSSFIRE; THE PLOT THAT KILLED KENNEDY wrote that Steinberg and Goldman discovered a massive satellite-computer network that linked not only PERMINDEX and the World Trade Mart, but a myriad of such ORGANIZATIONS CONNECTED to the WORLD TRADE CENTER ASSOCIATION. they wrote"

    "Among the fifty-plus world trade marts hooked into the satellite-computer complex is the Hong Kong World Trade Center-----is the single largest and highest-priced chunk of real estate in Hong Kong. The INTERNATIONAL DRUG CARTEL, through this Hong Kong center, thus maintains a TRANSNATIONAL TRACKING SYSTEM [of international trade route, carriers, inventories and rates] that is more sophisticated and technologically advanced than the capabilities at the disposal of ANY GOVERNMENT ATTEMPTING TO COMBAT ITS DEADLY TRAFFIC (narcotics and narcotics moneys)."

    "In 1962 even the Italian government could not put up with the PERMINDEX/CONTRO MONDIALE COMMERICALS operations and had both expelled for SUBVERSIVE ACTIVITIES.

    To further connect Clay Shaw, who used the alias Clay Bertrand, to the CIA, Victor Marchettie, in his book, THE CIA AND THE CULT OF INTELLIGENCE, revealed that CIA director Richard Helms admitted that both Shaw and David Ferrie worked for the CIA. And when Garrison's case against Shaw began to draw national attention, Helm voiced concern on many occasions that Shaw had to be protected. In one case Helms told a top aides "to do all we can to help Shaw."

    Shaw also knew General Charles P. Cabell, and introduced him to the Foreign Policy Association of New Orleans shortly after the Bay of Pigs invasion."

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  • Bo Archer
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    Let us continue briefly with the same source DESTINY BETRAYED from above. If one is to purchase only one book on the Coup of 1963 this is the book to obtain.

    'The project now became stalled in Switzerland. It now moved to Rome. In a September 1969 interview, Shaw did for PENTHOUSE MAGAZINE, he told James Phelan that he only grew interested in the project when it moved to Italy. Which was in October of 1958. Yet a State Department cable dated April 9 of that year says that Shaw showed great interest in Permindez from the outset.
    One can see why. The Board of Directors was made up of bankers who had been tied up with FASCIST GOVERNMENTS, people who worked the Jewish refugee racket during World War II, a former member of Mussolini's cabinet, and the son-in-law of Hjalmar Schact, the economic wizard behind the Third Reich, who was a friend of Shaw's. These people would all appeal to the conservative Shaw. There were at least four international newspapers that exposed the bizarre activities of Permindez when it was in Rome. One problem was the mysterious source of funding no one knew where it was coming from or going to. Another was that its activities reportedly included assassination attempts on French Premier Charles de Gaulle. Which would make sense since the founding member of Permindez, Ferenc Nagy, was a close friend of Jacques Soustelle. Soustelle was a leader of the OAS, a group of former French officers who broke with de Gaulle over his Algerian policy. They later made several attempts on de Gaulle's life, which the CIA was privy to. Again, this mysterious source of funding, plus the rightwing, NEO-FASCIST DIRECTORS created another wave of controversy. One newspaper wrote that the organization may have been "a creature of the CIA -- funds in Italy for illegal political espionage activities." The Schroder connection would certainly suggest that."

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  • Bo Archer
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    Here's another peek at the invaluable book DESTINY BETRAYED:

    "The next stop in the CIA ladder after his (Clay Shaw) high level overseas informant service was his work with the strange company called Permindex. When the announcement for Permindex was first made in Switzerland in late 1956, its principle backing was to come from a local banker named Hans Seligman. But as more investigation by the local paper was done, it became clear that the real backer was J. Henry Schroder Banking Corporation. This information was quite revealing. Schroder's had been closely associated with ALLEN DULLES and the CIA for years. ALLEN DULLES'S connections to the Schroder banking family went back to the thirties when his law firm, SULLIVAN AND CROMWELL, first began representing them through him. Later, DULLES was the bank's General Counsel. In fact, when DULLES became CIA Director, Schroder's was a repository for a fifty million dollar contingency fund that DULLES personally controlled. Schroder's was a welcome conduit because the bank benefited from previous CIA overthrows in Guatemala and Iran. Another reason that there began to be a furor over Permindex in Switzerland was the fact that the bank's founder, Baron Kurt von Schroeder, was associated with the Third Reich, specially Heinrich Himmler."
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  • Bo Archer
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    Here's another little jewel helpfully revealed to us in the outstanding book source cited above:

    "Peter Vea discovered a very important document while at the National Archives in 1994. Attached to a listing of Shaw's numerous contacts with the Domestic Contact Service, a listing was attached which stated that Shaw had a COVERT SECURITY APPROVAL IN THE PROJECT QKENCHANT. This was in 1967 and the present tense was used, meaning that Shaw WAS AN ACTIVE COVERT OPERATOR FOR THE CIA WHILE GARRISON WAS INVESTIGATING HIM. When William Davy took this document to former CIA officer Victor Marchetti, and interesting conversation ensued. As Marchetti looked at the document he said, "That's interesting...He was...He was doing something there." He then said that Shaw would not need a covert security clearance for domestic contacts service. He then added, "This was something else. This would imply that he was doing some kind of work for the Clandestine Services."-----

    --"And this is what E. Howard Hunt was working for at the time." And in fact, Howard Hunt did have such a covert clearance issued to him in 1970 while he was working at the White House."

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  • bart dale
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    Originally posted by copenhagen View Post
    Oh yes Dorothy Kilgallen. Supposedly got a proper interview with Jack Ruby and claimed she was going to blow the case wide open. Then suddenly lost the will to live.
    And maybe she had nothing, and was too ashamed to go in front of the world and say so, and commited suicide rather than eat crow, and retract her unproven claims. Her claims she was going to blow the case wide open could of been just bravado.

    The best book I read on the subject was Furhman's "A Case of Simple Murder". Furhman says there were a lot of conspiracies with the JFK murder, but just not about who killed him. There were conspiracies to hide the fact that evidence was lost, that the person's performing the autopsy were not experience in performing autopsy of of murder victims, and a list of others, but Furhman still supported Oswald as the lone gunman, even though he rejected single bullet theory.

    I think many people would rather believe in a conspiracy rather than accept that the investigation of the assasination of the US most important man was conducted in a rather sloppy manner, and that a single looney could kill so important a person. If someone like Oswald could kill a person as guarded as the president, and his murder investigation was conducted in such a slip shod manner, what hope there for the rest of us peons? A person like Oswald could kill any one of us, we aren't safe. However, if it was a conspiracy, then we are safe, because no one would wasted such an effort on people as unimportant as us, that is why people are so prone to believe in a conspiracy.

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  • Mystikeye
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    Its been over 54 years since our President John F. Kennedy and Dallas LEO James Tippet were murdered by that twisted piece of Marxist crap Lee Harvey Oswald.

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  • Bo Archer
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    Please allow continuation of the above:

    "His (Clay Shaw) overt work for the globalist designs of the Eastern Establishment was the visible complement to his covert intelligence work. Shaw began his intelligence career in the Army during World War II. As he admitted in his entry in WHO'S WHO IN THE SOUTHWEST for 1963-64, Shaw served as aide-de-camp to General Charles Thrasher. As discovered in an Army manual by the superb archives researcher Peter Vea, Thrasher's unit fell under Special Operations Section, or SOS, a branch of military intelligence. When he returned to New Orleans after the war, Shaw becamea friend of Ted Brent a self made millionaire and "Queen Bee" of the local homosexual underground. It was Brent who became Shaw's benefactor and aided him in his move up into the business world in New Orleans. That is from IH to Mississippi Shipping Company to the founding of the International Trade Mart. And it was in this phrase of his career where Shaw's association with the CIA began. As Jim Garrison once noted, the CIA used Mississippi Shipping as a conduit for intelligence gathering into Latin America. Once the ITM was established, Shaw began his work as an overseas informant to both Latin America and Eastern Europe.----because the CIA considered Shaw such an important and valued asset that they created a "Y" file for him. William Davy discovered a handwritten note in the CIA declassified files sayings that one of the files had been destroyed."

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  • Bo Archer
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    Let us remember and never forget that the agents of the Deep State worked very hard to project the false history that AD Jim Garrison was crazy and that Clay Shaw was a simple successful New Orleans businessman being wrongly harassed by the said DA.

    Here's from the outstanding book: DESTINY BETRAYED: JFK, CUBA, AND THE GARRISON CASE:

    "One thing Phelan never did was admit the truth about Clay Shaw. Even though Phelan did not pass away until September of 1997, he always resisted admitting Shaw's ties to the CIA as much as he did own ties to the FBI. Today, with the declassification process of the ARRB, these are SIMPLY UNDENIBLE."-------

    "This deception can begin to be exposed just by looking at who Shaw worked for and with: the International Trade Mart and its sister organization, International House. As the author has shown in this book, one of Kennedy's largest splits with the Eastern Establishment was that he was a proponent of the Third World nationalism. Shaw's two agencies were early advocates for what we term today as globalism or the One World free trade doctrine."---

    "When Shaw returned from his intelligence duties in World War II, he went to work at the New Orleans branch of International House. International House was founded by the Rockefellers and spread worldwide.----

    "The New Orleans branch of International House was important because the port of New Orleans served as a gateway into Latin America. Considering the fact that American businesses had many holdings south of the border, IH and the ITM were important envoys into Latin America for the elite families who controlled so much of the energy, stocks and bonds, and banking industry."

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  • copenhagen
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    It's a good scene

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  • Carl Schwamberg
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    I'm fairly sure Levon Helm had the inside on this question.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8_jpjQXUyA

    "Still got the shovel!" ROFLMAO

    "The world aint what it seems, is it Gunny. The moment you think you got it figured, yer wrong."

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