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  • Cuba to end to exit permits for foreign travel

    From: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-19958577

    16 October 2012 Last updated at 05:51 GMT

    Cuba has announced it is removing the need for its citizens to obtain exit permits before travelling abroad. State media said the move, to come into effect on 14 January next year, would "update" migration laws to reflect current and future circumstances. Cubans currently have to go through a lengthy and expensive process to obtain a permit and dissidents are often denied them, correspondents say.

    The move is the latest in a series of reforms under President Raul Castro. The BBC's Sarah Rainsford, in Havana, says the exit permit process is hated by most Cubans. Now all they will need to travel is a valid passport. Cuba previously saw people attempting to leave the country as traitors or enemies of the revolution, says our correspondent, but official recognition is growing that many Cubans want to leave for economic reasons.

    For nearly half a century, Cuba was run as a command economy, with almost all activity controlled by the state. But under President Raul Castro, who took over from his brother Fidel in 2008, it has gradually eased restrictions in many areas of politics, business and society.
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  • #2
    Interesting development. We'll have to see how Florida votes in the US elections to see if the next president will have any leeway in dealing with Cuba.
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    • #3
      If Cuba is indeed the 'orrible place it is often made out to be, we may see an exodus in January.


      Philip
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      • #4
        This well be VERY interesting. Now if the US can only make some realistic changes thing can move forward with some speed. Long over do imo
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        • #5
          Originally posted by PhilipLaos View Post
          If Cuba is indeed the 'orrible place it is often made out to be, we may see an exodus in January.


          Philip
          For sure, but where do they go. They will need a visa for the US as it now stands afaik.
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          • #6
            They will need only a passport, a visa and a letter of invitation.

            I would think the Cuban organizations in Florida would be able to sort that out for them.


            Philip
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            • #7
              The authorities in Cuba must be hurting for hard currency. They figure that is some Cubans can leave, their absence will either be temporary, or at least they'll leave plenty of relatives behind. Either way, Havana expects lots of USD's to flood their economy, much like in the mid 1990's, when they liberalized cash transfers between Cubans and their kin living in the US.
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              • #8
                Cuba might very well end up with a serious "brain drain" of their best, brightest and most well educated citizens, much like the same way that East Germany experienced it in the early 60's when they were forced to errect the Berlin Wall to keep all of their doctors and etc. from fleeing to the west..
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by johnbryan View Post
                  Cuba might very well end up with a serious "brain drain" of their best, brightest and most well educated citizens, much like the same way that East Germany experienced it in the early 60's when they were forced to errect the Berlin Wall to keep all of their doctors and etc. from fleeing to the west..
                  Doctors, professors, and etc are exempt from this new revision of the law.

                  And in East Germany the authorities actually sold dissidents and trouble makers to West Germany for cash. It was a major money-maker for the Communist government.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Jonathanrex1 View Post
                    Doctors, professors, and etc are exempt from this new revision of the law.

                    And in East Germany the authorities actually sold dissidents and trouble makers to West Germany for cash. It was a major money-maker for the Communist government.
                    How hard would it be to obtain a false ID.? It happens here all the time.
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                    • #11
                      At least there are signs of easing restrictions on the population. The embargo has done a lot of damage. After the Cuban Missile Crisis of the 1960s, the yanks placed an embargo on Cuba, to the point of fining and placing restrictions on companies which traded with Cuba.

                      Now that the media event known as the USA elections is over, perhaps a more rational attitude towards Cuba mght be developed. Was the initial motivation for the Cuban embargo to sway Cuban-Americans to vote for the government in power at the time? I have a strong suspicion that it was. Then again Florida politics have always looked like Chicago during the Prohibition Era.
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