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    Today was budget day. Here's the key points.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/politics/10374475.stm

    All I have to say is :
    Love this! Can I send Osborne some flowers?!

    The work shy and feckless get told to get a grip. With hopefully more to follow. While the VAT and Income tax hikes hit me, I was expecting that. But its offset by the tax limit being raised.
    Armed forces get their Op Deployment allowance doubled as well.
    Council tax is frozen, But that wasn't much of an issue to me, as the last few years have only been increases of about 3%. The added advantage is that the public sector is getting its hat nailed on. Considering that currently accounts for 53% of GDP, this is well past time
    I'm also chuffed to bits that the Internet tax is getting binned.

    The only thing I'm not to keen on is the Bank Levy.

    Over all I like this one allot. I don't mind taking a hit (like I have) to help out with the countries fiscal problems. What I objected too was taking the pain (Like I was doing every time under the Labour party) and the work shy wasters getting buckets of my cash flung at them.

    Stage two will hopefully be a Cap on how many sprogs you can claim child benefit for.

    Edit:
    whoops missed something else that I'm not to happy with. The foreign aid budget has been protected. I still think that could have been cut.
    Last edited by Listy; 22 Jun 10, 12:57.
    Winnie says
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    "He fell out of a Gestapo car, over a bridge, and onto a railway line. Then was run over by the Berlin Express.

    It was an Accident."
    Herr Flick.

  • #2
    Some might even call it "prudent".
    Winnie says
    ---------------------------------
    "He fell out of a Gestapo car, over a bridge, and onto a railway line. Then was run over by the Berlin Express.

    It was an Accident."
    Herr Flick.

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    • #3
      Im cautiously optimistic. We'll have to see what happens in September. When the Canadians did this in the 90's the military got plastered. That could screw us strategically in the coming decades and decades is how we should view defence spending not the next few weeks.
      But I do agree it does look optimistic , a lot of pain in the short to medium term but it could re-allign what society should be about, people doing things for themselves who are in a position to do so rather than the state bailing people out and that Im all in favour of. We might just might be on our way back. OK George steady as she goes.

      P.S The fact that the union bosses and Gordon Brown (probably a few Lib Dems Aswell) will be choking on their cornflakes this morning warms the cockles of my heart.

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      • #4
        Tough clampdown on welfare payments - housing benefit down to a max of £400 quid - a week.


        Bit of a squib I thought.

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        • #5
          With your MoD short on funds, who paid for the recent Queens birthday.

          Trooping the Colors and the security didn't cost as much as and air wing for one of the new carriers but more than enough for a platoon or so of infantry.

          So were did these funds come from?
          "Ask not what your country can do for you"

          Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

          you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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          • #6
            What a pathetic question.


            Total cost of Iraq and Afghan now exceeds £20 billions.

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            • #7
              Its not about her as a person. Its about her as a symbol, the figurehead of the nation and the trashing of our symbols thats been happening in recent decades needs to end.

              Anyway, the state is being cut in a decent way for the first time proper since the war and the socialist consensus that came with it and thats good. It will cause serious aggro in to the medium term but if we can get throught that without the majority of the public losing its nerve and voting back in the buy now pay later Labour brigade we could well be back in business and finally leave that post war malaise behind us. C'mon!!
              Last edited by copenhagen; 23 Jun 10, 05:52.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
                With your MoD short on funds, who paid for the recent Queens birthday.

                Trooping the Colors and the security didn't cost as much as and air wing for one of the new carriers but more than enough for a platoon or so of infantry.

                So were did these funds come from?
                #

                Odd as it might seem the trooping of the colur is a very effective recruiting tool for the Army.

                As was the Royal Tournament of fond memory. Which I think is making acome back ?

                The UK armed forces have pretty much always done their work away from hoe and out of sight of the public. Anything that brings them forward in a positive light to the public is worth every penny.
                "Sometimes its better to light a flamethrower than to curse the darkness" T Pratchett

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by copenhagen View Post
                  Its not about her as a person. Its about her as a symbol, the figurehead of the nation and the trashing of our symbols thats been happening in recent decades needs to end.

                  Anyway, the state is being cut in a decent way for the first time proper since the war and the socialist consensus that came with it and thats good. It will cause serious aggro in to the medium term but if we can get throught that without the majority of the public losing its nerve and voting back in the buy now pay later Labour brigade we could well be back in business and finally leave that post war malaise behind us. C'mon!!
                  So were do the funds come from?
                  "Ask not what your country can do for you"

                  Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

                  you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by DARKPLACE View Post
                    #

                    Odd as it might seem the trooping of the colur is a very effective recruiting tool for the Army.
                    As was the Royal Tournament of fond memory. Which I think is making acome back ?

                    The UK armed forces have pretty much always done their work away from hoe and out of sight of the public. Anything that brings them forward in a positive light to the public is worth every penny.
                    I'm aware of that.

                    It is one of the fav's on German TV each year. Anything about any royal family is programed. Recent Swedish royal Wedding was show for 5 hours on one of the programs here and was in the news for days before and after.

                    Still, what did it cost and who pays?
                    "Ask not what your country can do for you"

                    Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

                    you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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                    • #11
                      I wonder how the Tory/Liberal Government think they are going to cut the welfare budget by getting people off benefits, when there is already 2,500,000 unemployed the number is set to rise, even more so given the large number of public sector jobs that are certain to be lost.
                      War is less costly than servitude

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by copenhagen View Post
                        Anyway, the state is being cut in a decent way for the first time proper since the war and the socialist consensus that came with it and thats good. It will cause serious aggro in to the medium term but if we can get throught that without the majority of the public losing its nerve and voting back in the buy now pay later Labour brigade we could well be back in business and finally leave that post war malaise behind us. C'mon!!
                        Didn't someone say: "No one ever went bankrupt by underestimating the stupidity of people". It does feel like a new shiny change these days (especially if a later poster is right and the Royal Tournament returns). I share your optimism too. We could get back to fixing the country and getting away from the dark ages.

                        Originally posted by kendrick View Post
                        I wonder how the Tory/Liberal Government think they are going to cut the welfare budget by getting people off benefits, when there is already 2,500,000 unemployed the number is set to rise, even more so given the large number of public sector jobs that are certain to be lost.
                        Easy, there's plenty of jobs out there. Its just a large chunk of the scum think its a mugs game to work when they can live comfortably on Benefits. If Their comfy lives come to an end, as benefits are cut, then they have an incentive to get out of bed, Turn Oprah off, and do some bloody work and contribute to society. Like the rest of us already do!

                        Anyway The Unemployment figures are going to sky rocket. With the Cull of the Civil Service, and the Disability Benefit cull. Labour massaged the figures (no surprise there), by swelling the Civil service and moving everyone they couldn't find a street football coordinator job onto Disability benefits.

                        OF course we all suspect that It goes horribly wrong and in 5 years the sacked Civil service types vote for one of the Millipede brothers and we have New Labour MKII. At which point the country is dead meat.
                        Winnie says
                        ---------------------------------
                        "He fell out of a Gestapo car, over a bridge, and onto a railway line. Then was run over by the Berlin Express.

                        It was an Accident."
                        Herr Flick.

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                        • #13
                          I see the BBC is already doing its predictable left handed hatchet job.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by copenhagen View Post
                            I see the BBC is already doing its predictable left handed hatchet job.
                            Oh? Let me guess:

                            "Its all Maggie's fault!"

                            Winnie says
                            ---------------------------------
                            "He fell out of a Gestapo car, over a bridge, and onto a railway line. Then was run over by the Berlin Express.

                            It was an Accident."
                            Herr Flick.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
                              I'm aware of that.

                              It is one of the fav's on German TV each year. Anything about any royal family is programed. Recent Swedish royal Wedding was show for 5 hours on one of the programs here and was in the news for days before and after.

                              Still, what did it cost and who pays?

                              The Trooping of the Colour only involves the Household Division, the various guards regiments and the Household cavalry. Their Barracks are all in or arround London. So the cost of the actual parade is minimal as its part of their normal tour of Ceremonial duties. Its part of what andwho they are.

                              If you wanted to start from scratch to raise a ceremonial unit and included the costs of uniforms, wages, bands and the time spent drilling them to the required standard etc, then your not going to get much change from £150million. As it stands I'd guess including security measures and police then your looking at about £8 million, give or take a couple of million.

                              What cant be measured is the cost of not doing it.

                              Its one of the highlights of the tourist season and actually attracts people from acoss the world to see it all of them will spend money in the way of hotels, food, drink and entry to the other tourist attractions. Stop doing it and some of those tourists will not come. More importantly is the effect it would have on us as a nation. The Army would pretty much vanish from public view apart from the dead arriving back through Wotten Basset and during floods and when the fire brigade strikes.

                              If they are going to cut anything then the Trooping of the Colour shouldnt be it.
                              "Sometimes its better to light a flamethrower than to curse the darkness" T Pratchett

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