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    I just saw the opening of the new -and very full- British coalitionparliament on the news and I must say...I admire the politicians of the UK.

    -They are always present, while the Belgian parliament is mostly half empty !
    -They are always awake, while in the Belgian parliament you can sometimes see the politicians falling asleep !
    -They are always interested in what is said, while in the Belgian parliament you can often see the politicians reading the newspaper or calling on their cellular phone!
    -They always keep their discourses simple so hat the common man in the street knows what they are talking about, while in the Belgian parliament they often speak Chinese!
    -They always speak with much interest and good tone of voice so that the watchers are intrigued by what is said, while in the Belgian parliament many of them need to follow a course in rhetorics...

    Way to go UK, you're an example when it comes to politics



    Stratego
    Death is nothing, but to live defeated and inglorious is to die daily.- Napoleon

    It is better to fail in originality than to succeed in imitation.- Herman Melville

    Aut viam inveniam aut faciam

    BORG

  • #2
    Originally posted by Stratego View Post
    I just saw the opening of the new -and very full- British coalitionparliament on the news and I must say...I admire the politicians of the UK.

    -They are always present, while the Belgian parliament is mostly half empty !
    -They are always awake, while in the Belgian parliament you can sometimes see the politicians falling asleep !
    -They are always interested in what is said, while in the Belgian parliament you can often see the politicians reading the newspaper or calling on their cellular phone!
    -They always keep their discourses simple so hat the common man in the street knows what they are talking about, while in the Belgian parliament they often speak Chinese!
    -They always speak with much interest and good tone of voice so that the watchers are intrigued by what is said, while in the Belgian parliament many of them need to follow a course in rhetorics...

    Way to go UK, you're an example when it comes to politics



    Stratego
    Someone likes how we do things. Im confused now.

    But Im pleased you do.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Stratego View Post
      I just saw the opening of the new -and very full- British coalitionparliament on the news and I must say...I admire the politicians of the UK.

      -They are always present, while the Belgian parliament is mostly half empty !
      -They are always awake, while in the Belgian parliament you can sometimes see the politicians falling asleep !
      -They are always interested in what is said, while in the Belgian parliament you can often see the politicians reading the newspaper or calling on their cellular phone!
      -They always keep their discourses simple so hat the common man in the street knows what they are talking about, while in the Belgian parliament they often speak Chinese!
      -They always speak with much interest and good tone of voice so that the watchers are intrigued by what is said, while in the Belgian parliament many of them need to follow a course in rhetorics...

      Way to go UK, you're an example when it comes to politics



      Stratego
      You're not describing our parliament at all. Yours and hours seem very much alike.
      Winnie says
      ---------------------------------
      "He fell out of a Gestapo car, over a bridge, and onto a railway line. Then was run over by the Berlin Express.

      It was an Accident."
      Herr Flick.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Listy View Post
        You're not describing our parliament at all. Yours and hours seem very much alike.
        Having said that bearing in mind it takes the much vaunted Euro style PR system up to a 100 days of squabbling to reach a co-alition gov't and often falls soon after. I believe Belgium being one such country (Stratego can correct me if Im wrong) but in a very British way two juxtaposed parties managed it in about 3 days. British Revolution "What do we want ? Moderation!!! When do we want it? In due course!!!!

        And I have to say I heard German and Italian journalists interviewed about our expenses scandal and they said whats your fuss? To us this is nothing!! It was more the Italian though who said that though. I dont think as much as I dislike our political establishment that we are as in such a hole as we think relatively speaking. Not to excuse duck houses or rented porn movies or anything.
        Last edited by copenhagen; 19 May 10, 03:41.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by copenhagen View Post
          Having said that bearing in mind it takes the much vaunted Euro style PR system up to a 100 days of squabbling to reach a co-alition gov't and often falls soon after. I believe Belgium being one such country (Stratego can correct me if Im wrong) but in a very British way two juxtaposed parties managed it in about 3 days. British Revolution "What do we want ? Moderation!!! When do we want it? In due course!!!!

          And I have to say I heard German and Italian journalists interviewed about our expenses scandal and they said whats your fuss? To us this is nothing!! It was more the Italian though who said that though. I dont think as much as I dislike our political establishment that we are as in such a hole as we think relatively speaking. Not to excuse duck houses or rented porn movies or anything.
          I wouldn't dare to countermand you Copenhagen...you are NOT wrong !

          As for Listy: No ! Is the UK government like that also
          Death is nothing, but to live defeated and inglorious is to die daily.- Napoleon

          It is better to fail in originality than to succeed in imitation.- Herman Melville

          Aut viam inveniam aut faciam

          BORG

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Stratego View Post
            I wouldn't dare to countermand you Copenhagen...you are NOT wrong !

            As for Listy: No ! Is the UK government like that also
            Yup.
            Winnie says
            ---------------------------------
            "He fell out of a Gestapo car, over a bridge, and onto a railway line. Then was run over by the Berlin Express.

            It was an Accident."
            Herr Flick.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Stratego View Post
              I wouldn't dare to countermand you Copenhagen...you are NOT wrong !

              As for Listy: No ! Is the UK government like that also
              I wouldnt know what Belgium is truly like but read the last paragraph of my previous popst. We have our problems but at least when there was a big scandal it came out and people got in deep troube and reforms are on the cards. Like I said the Italians shrugged at us and said thats nothing.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by copenhagen View Post
                Not to excuse duck houses or rented porn movies or anything.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Stratego View Post
                  I just saw the opening of the new -and very full- British coalitionparliament on the news and I must say...I admire the politicians of the UK.

                  -They are always present, while the Belgian parliament is mostly half empty !
                  -They are always awake, while in the Belgian parliament you can sometimes see the politicians falling asleep !
                  -They are always interested in what is said, while in the Belgian parliament you can often see the politicians reading the newspaper or calling on their cellular phone!
                  -They always keep their discourses simple so hat the common man in the street knows what they are talking about, while in the Belgian parliament they often speak Chinese!
                  -They always speak with much interest and good tone of voice so that the watchers are intrigued by what is said, while in the Belgian parliament many of them need to follow a course in rhetorics...

                  Way to go UK, you're an example when it comes to politics



                  Stratego
                  They were on their best behaviour for the first day of the session. Normally the House of Commons is 80% destered while many MP's are in the Bar. They rarely keep their discorse simple and they often shout at each other.

                  If you were to live in Britain, you would soon be disillisioned.
                  War is less costly than servitude

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by kendrick View Post
                    They were on their best behaviour for the first day of the session. Normally the House of Commons is 80% destered while many MP's are in the Bar. They rarely keep their discorse simple and they often shout at each other.

                    If you were to live in Britain, you would soon be disillisioned.
                    Indeed.
                    Hate to spoil the illusion, Jason, but on specialist issues like, let us say public health, parliamentary sessions anywhere (be they in Brussels, Westminster or Cape Town) are only attended by the relevant specialists in Parliament.
                    The rest of the parliamentarians have other things to take care of as well.
                    The full and lively parliamentary debates you refer to are the ones most interesting to be widely broad casted
                    BoRG

                    You may not be interested in War, but War is interested in You - Leon Trotski, June 1919.

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                    • #11
                      A couple of years back there was a debate on defence issues. Which one might consider a tad important, what with us being in AFG and Iraq at the time.

                      About 10 MP's showed up to it.
                      Winnie says
                      ---------------------------------
                      "He fell out of a Gestapo car, over a bridge, and onto a railway line. Then was run over by the Berlin Express.

                      It was an Accident."
                      Herr Flick.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Listy View Post
                        A couple of years back there was a debate on defence issues. Which one might consider a tad important, what with us being in AFG and Iraq at the time.

                        About 10 MP's showed up to it.
                        Afaik in the british election system its important that the MPs return to their constituency often and regularily to mend broken walls, talk about the tea selection of local shops and make sure the cats are helped down the trees. If they dont, they are not doing their job as the representative of the comunity and must be voted out of office or so I hear. Its a simple problem of priorities and a trip to london takes a long time if your constituency is in schotland, right?
                        Ha, wie so stolz und hehr
                        Wirft über Land und Meer
                        Weithin der deutsche Aar
                        Flammenden Blick.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Kimi View Post
                          Afaik in the british election system its important that the MPs return to their constituency often and regularily to mend broken walls, talk about the tea selection of local shops and make sure the cats are helped down the trees. If they dont, they are not doing their job as the representative of the comunity and must be voted out of office or so I hear. Its a simple problem of priorities and a trip to london takes a long time if your constituency is in schotland, right?
                          Astute observation.
                          What you get in such a system is politicians who look after their constituency only and don't care too much about taking care of the bigger (national, global) picture as this will not win them any votes. If the system runs galore you'll end up with municipal alderman ruling an Empire
                          BoRG

                          You may not be interested in War, but War is interested in You - Leon Trotski, June 1919.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Kimi View Post
                            Afaik in the british election system its important that the MPs return to their constituency often and regularily to mend broken walls, talk about the tea selection of local shops and make sure the cats are helped down the trees. If they dont, they are not doing their job as the representative of the comunity and must be voted out of office or so I hear. Its a simple problem of priorities and a trip to london takes a long time if your constituency is in schotland, right?
                            while your slightly correct. MP's have a staff, that answers any immediate correspondence, and can Alert their boss to anything critical.
                            However I'm 50 odd miles away from London and the commute only takes about 45 minutes by train. Hell there's more than 10 MP's in London alone. So while no one is expecting every MP to show up every day, such a tiny number for such an important debate is crap.
                            Winnie says
                            ---------------------------------
                            "He fell out of a Gestapo car, over a bridge, and onto a railway line. Then was run over by the Berlin Express.

                            It was an Accident."
                            Herr Flick.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Listy View Post
                              while your slightly correct. MP's have a staff, that answers any immediate correspondence, and can Alert their boss to anything critical.
                              However I'm 50 odd miles away from London and the commute only takes about 45 minutes by train. Hell there's more than 10 MP's in London alone. So while no one is expecting every MP to show up every day, such a tiny number for such an important debate is crap.
                              Well, of course I was overstating. However the problem stays the same... On what do people vote in their MPs is the main question because the incentive of (to my knowledge all) democratic elections is not to serve the people but to become re-elected. The hope is that serving the people and getting re-elected coincidates. However if people vote on local issues but the people they vote in are also paramount in national and global issues then thats a bad thing imo.

                              I wouldnt vote in the same guy with the same track record that I'd vote in for the lower saxony state parliament, the german Bundestag or the Oldenburg mayor. One is running on his municipial record, one on his state record and one on his national record. Why would the one with the national responsibilities have to chime in on which school district in my home town gets how many new teachers? Thats not what he's there for. We've got mayors and Ausschüsse for that. No need for some guy in Hannover (state capital) or even Berlin to decide stuff on the ground in oldenburg only because we send him to those cities that he might represent our interest there. In intra oldenburgish matters we're just fine, thank you. No need to bore the guys from Frankfurt or Düsseldorf with the plight of Oldenburg school children.
                              Ha, wie so stolz und hehr
                              Wirft über Land und Meer
                              Weithin der deutsche Aar
                              Flammenden Blick.

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