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    OK at first I was hesitating about actually posting this thread. I myself am aganist any form of hate groups. With all that said, I've been reading about the neo-Nazis in Germany. What are your views o this topic?

    I think that the German Police need to crack down on these groups, and make some arrests!
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    Re: Nazis In Todays Europe

    Originally posted by panzerboy
    OK at first I was hesitating about actually posting this thread. I myself am aganist any form of hate groups. With all that said, I've been reading about the neo-Nazis in Germany. What are your views o this topic?

    I think that the German Police need to crack down on these groups, and make some arrests!
    We haven't cracked down in the US on them, why should Germany? (BTW, Germany does crack down on them when they have a chargeable crime; the National Party was banned a few years ago and there are arrests regularly of people who cross the line.) They are also not unique to Germany.

    Jeff

    PS - Not a bad thread, but probably more suitable to the Free Fire Area.
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      Re: Re: Nazis In Todays Europe

      Originally posted by Janos
      We haven't cracked down in the US on them, why should Germany? (BTW, Germany does crack down on them when they have a chargeable crime; the National Party was banned a few years ago and there are arrests regularly of people who cross the line.) They are also not unique to Germany.

      Jeff

      PS - Not a bad thread, but probably more suitable to the Free Fire Area.
      Agree. I believe there are some countries in Europe who outlaw Nazi memorabilia?? In Canada we don't. It's called freedom of expression and not being guilty stricktly by association.

      Brian, should this thread be moved to the Free-Zone?
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        Re: Re: Re: Nazis In Todays Europe

        Originally posted by dannybou
        I believe there are some countries in Europe who outlaw Nazi memorabilia??
        There are. In Germany and France, display of the swastika is illegal (although the Germans appear to be more lax lately -- I saw a few in a flea market a couple of summers ago, and would not have 22 years ago when I was in Germany.

        Most European nations ban "hate speech" or inciting violence, as most countries do, but they're more liable to use it against a Nazi than a communist.
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          Moved. :thumb:
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            Re: Re: Re: Nazis In Todays Europe

            Originally posted by dannybou
            Agree. I believe there are some countries in Europe who outlaw Nazi memorabilia?? In Canada we don't. It's called freedom of expression and not being guilty stricktly by association.

            Brian, should this thread be moved to the Free-Zone?
            If I'm not mistaken, the Canadian Government does proscribe "hate speech" do they not? I seem to recall one person who had served several times in jail/prison for inciting others to engage in racial/ethnic violence. Any way, as the proverb says, when one person loses a freedom, we all lose it.
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              Re: Nazis In Todays Europe

              Originally posted by panzerboy
              OK at first I was hesitating about actually posting this thread. I myself am aganist any form of hate groups. With all that said, I've been reading about the neo-Nazis in Germany. What are your views o this topic?

              I think that the German Police need to crack down on these groups, and make some arrests!
              To my knowledge, no person in German may display any Nazi sign, badge, handbill, military dress (e.g. SS uniform). Further, I belive that they may not incite to violence, repression or any other action that serves to deprives another person of their freedoms, properties or life.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Jim H. Moreno
                Moved. :thumb:
                You de man.

                Thanks, Jim. I think it'll be happier here.
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                  Re: Re: Re: Re: Nazis In Todays Europe

                  Originally posted by hogdriver
                  If I'm not mistaken, the Canadian Government does proscribe "hate speech" do they not? I seem to recall one person who had served several times in jail/prison for inciting others to engage in racial/ethnic violence. Any way, as the proverb says, when one person loses a freedom, we all lose it.
                  Are you referring to the teacher who was advocating that the Holocaust never happened?
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                    Re: Re: Nazis In Todays Europe

                    Originally posted by hogdriver
                    To my knowledge, no person in German may display any Nazi sign, badge, handbill, military dress (e.g. SS uniform). Further, I belive that they may not incite to violence, repression or any other action that serves to deprives another person of their freedoms, properties or life.
                    That's true, but my experience is that this law is not as tightly enforced as it was 20 years ago when I was a lieutenant. Back then, there were no swastikas anywhere. No you see all the stuff you listed above in flea markets all over the country. No one seems to care much and there is no fuss about it -- I think if there were a fuss that Nazi stuff would be gone in a flash.

                    JS
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                      Re: Re: Re: Re: Nazis In Todays Europe

                      Originally posted by Janos
                      There are. In Germany and France, display of the swastika is illegal (although the Germans appear to be more lax lately -- I saw a few in a flea market a couple of summers ago, and would not have 22 years ago when I was in Germany.

                      Most European nations ban "hate speech" or inciting violence, as most countries do, but they're more liable to use it against a Nazi than a communist.
                      Summer of 76'. The Bremen Docks. There we were walking along when we saw a little shop all on it's own. Looked like it was selling Antiques or something. Lo and behold on entry it was selling Nazi gear. We bought a few items, military related stuff mind. The girl behind the counter was an absolute stunner of a brunette. But we had to leave her behind!
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                      • #12
                        down with the nazis.
                        "If we have to give these bastards our lives, we give them hell before we do! " - Cpt. Mifune, The Matrix Revolutions

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                        • #13
                          you really can't say that you can't have a nazi symbol in the US because it would be unamerican to say "no you cannot do that." Unless they have a chargeable crime, they can do whatever they want, although when they are accused of the crime, they have a harder time fighting it in the judicial system because of them being a nazi.

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                            Re: Nazis In Todays Europe

                            Originally posted by eagle101
                            OK at first I was hesitating about actually posting this thread. I myself am aganist any form of hate groups. With all that said, I've been reading about the neo-Nazis in Germany. What are your views o this topic?

                            I think that the German Police need to crack down on these groups, and make some arrests!
                            I agree with Janos, France AND Germany have outlawed the Nazi Party and all symbols (Reverse-Swastika, SS Sowillo Runes, Death's Head) related to such, so they would probably be underground.
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                              Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Nazis In Todays Europe

                              Originally posted by Wolfe Tone
                              Summer of 76'. The Bremen Docks. There we were walking along when we saw a little shop all on it's own. Looked like it was selling Antiques or something. Lo and behold on entry it was selling Nazi gear. We bought a few items, military related stuff mind. The girl behind the counter was an absolute stunner of a brunette. But we had to leave her behind!
                              That's a surprise...there was none of that Nazi stuff in evidence in Hessen 2 years later when I arrived.

                              JS
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