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  • Urgent review into UK Coronavirus death count called for

    Health Secretary Matt Hancock has called for an urgent review into how coronavirus deaths have been recorded in England.

    It follows confirmation from Public Health England that reported deaths may have included people who tested positive months before they died.

    The other UK nations are only thought to include those who die within 28 days of having coronavirus.

    There have been 40,528 deaths linked to the virus in England.


    Prof Carl Heneghan from University of Oxford, who spotted the issue with the data, told the BBC that there was "huge variation" in the numbers of daily deaths reported in England by PHE.

    While NHS England currently reports 30-35 deaths per day, Public Health England's data often shows double that or more, he said.

    The reason is that anyone who has tested positive for coronavirus but then died at a later date of another cause would still be included in PHE's Covid-19 death figures.

    "By this PHE definition, no one with Covid in England is allowed to ever recover from their illness," Prof Heneghan says.

    "We need correct and accurate statistics so we can really understand the trend - otherwise it's very difficult to know what's going on," he added."
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53443724


    How do so many stupids get so promoted.

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    Originally posted by Gooner View Post
    Health Secretary Matt Hancock has called for an urgent review into how coronavirus deaths have been recorded in England.

    It follows confirmation from Public Health England that reported deaths may have included people who tested positive months before they died.

    The other UK nations are only thought to include those who die within 28 days of having coronavirus.

    There have been 40,528 deaths linked to the virus in England.


    Prof Carl Heneghan from University of Oxford, who spotted the issue with the data, told the BBC that there was "huge variation" in the numbers of daily deaths reported in England by PHE.

    While NHS England currently reports 30-35 deaths per day, Public Health England's data often shows double that or more, he said.

    The reason is that anyone who has tested positive for coronavirus but then died at a later date of another cause would still be included in PHE's Covid-19 death figures.

    "By this PHE definition, no one with Covid in England is allowed to ever recover from their illness," Prof Heneghan says.

    "We need correct and accurate statistics so we can really understand the trend - otherwise it's very difficult to know what's going on," he adde.d."
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53443724


    How do so many stupids get so promoted.
    Saw that. CEBM is a good source for info on the virus in the UK.

    PHE are useless. I can't help thinking that putting a career nhs manager rather than someone with a medical/scientific background in charge of it was a mistake.Up until Covid it pretty much had nothing to do so was a dumping ground for people who couldn't hack it elsewhere.
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    • #3
      Seems the US has the same problem. One of the effects of Covid is to cause motor cycle accidents apparently.

      https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/fo...covid-19-death

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Gooner View Post
        Health Secretary Matt Hancock has called for an urgent review into how coronavirus deaths have been recorded in England.

        It follows confirmation from Public Health England that reported deaths may have included people who tested positive months before they died.

        The other UK nations are only thought to include those who die within 28 days of having coronavirus.

        There have been 40,528 deaths linked to the virus in England.


        Prof Carl Heneghan from University of Oxford, who spotted the issue with the data, told the BBC that there was "huge variation" in the numbers of daily deaths reported in England by PHE.

        While NHS England currently reports 30-35 deaths per day, Public Health England's data often shows double that or more, he said.

        The reason is that anyone who has tested positive for coronavirus but then died at a later date of another cause would still be included in PHE's Covid-19 death figures.

        "By this PHE definition, no one with Covid in England is allowed to ever recover from their illness," Prof Heneghan says.

        "We need correct and accurate statistics so we can really understand the trend - otherwise it's very difficult to know what's going on," he added."
        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53443724


        How do so many stupids get so promoted.
        You are correct in that the actual recorded deaths caused by coronavirus are wrong. They are under reported by about 50 %, ie actual deaths are c65000 at present in the UK not c45000 as stated.

        The sooner it is revealed the full extent that BOJO's government has failed the UK, the better.
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        • #5
          Next step in the big scam innit, woz all a mistake, this plague's no more dangerous than a sneeze...
          get yer arses back to work and play.

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          Is not lost in darkness
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          And athwart the seas
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          • #6
            Of course fewer deaths due to Covid means that more of the excess deaths have been caused by the reaction to Covid, including the virtual shutting down of non Covid NHS services. A &e attendances have plummeted, elective surgery stopped, cancer diagnoses a small fraction of what they were before.
            Plus people have been scared, sometimes with reason due to poor infection control, to go to hospital when they should have.

            Three million people have missed cancer treatments, screenings or tests. Many more will have died and will be going to die from cancer due to the lock down and overreaction to Covid.
            Last edited by Surrey; 19 Jul 20, 03:41.
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