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    The president Erdogan visits the EU in Brüssel. He attampts to solve the great refugee-problem with EU Comission chief 20200317_071004.jpg Ursula von der Leyen.

  • #2
    European Union, EU

    I do not believe in the European Union. Each country looks after itself.

    My country should follow England's example. I was happy.

    My opinion.

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    Não acredito na união europeia. Cada país olha por si.

    Meu país devia seguir o exemplo da Inglaterra.Eu ficava feliz.

    Minha opinião.


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    • #3
      No one mandated the EU level with anything re health care in advance. It's all national systems.

      But it's a favourite scape-goat.

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      • #4
        Who said anything about health care?
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Lusitano View Post
          European Union, EU

          I do not believe in the European Union. Each country looks after itself.

          My country should follow England's example. I was happy.

          My opinion.

          ................

          Não acredito na união europeia. Cada país olha por si.

          Meu país devia seguir o exemplo da Inglaterra.Eu ficava feliz.

          Minha opinião.

          You may be more right than you know-

          French border guards impounded trucks with 130,000 masks headed for the U.K.
          Czech Rep grabbed 100,000 face masks sent by China to help Italy
          Germany seized medical supplies headed for Switzerland
          On the 25th anniversary of a Europe without borders, the borders are closed.

          Isn't the EU good for anything?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Lusitano View Post
            European Union, EU

            I do not believe in the European Union.
            You mightn't like it but it's real alright.
            "The thing about quotes on the internet is that you cannot confirm their
            validity." - Abraham Lincoln.
            "Nothing's going to change while one side it lying about the cause and the other is lying about the solution" - Me

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            • #7
              I didn't talk about health, I'm going to talk now. Practically Italy was the first country to have the coronavirus.

              Until today, I have not seen the European Union contributing aid to Italy, Spain, perhaps tomorrow, Portugal like all the countries that are part of the Union that has helped Italy is China, I ask where the European Union is.

              Friends for me there is no European Union is a false word. I have always been against Portugal's entry into the European Union.


              ............

              Em português - In portuguese.


              Eu não falei de saúde,já agora vou falar.Praticamente a Itália foi o primeiro país a ter o coronavírus.

              Até hoje não vi a União Europeia a contribuir ajuda á Itália a Espanha igual talvez amanhã Portugal como todos os países que faz parte da .União que tem ajudado a Itália é a China pergunto eu aonde está a União Europeia

              Amigos para mim não existe União Europeia é uma palavra falsa. Sempre fui contra entrada de Portugal á União Europeia.






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              • #8
                You mightn't like it but it's real alright.

                ...........

                Not for me.Para mim não.


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                • #9
                  Germany IS helping Italy. They are treating six Italian patients in German hospitals.

                  China is not the only country really helping Italy though ..

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Phaing View Post

                    You may be more right than you know-

                    French border guards impounded trucks with 130,000 masks headed for the U.K.
                    Czech Rep grabbed 100,000 face masks sent by China to help Italy
                    Germany seized medical supplies headed for Switzerland
                    On the 25th anniversary of a Europe without borders, the borders are closed.

                    Isn't the EU good for anything?
                    .............................

                    Isn't the EU good for anything?


                    Not for me - Por mim não.



                    A.EU is good at letting international illegal immigrant mafia terrorists enter the European space.

                    The biggest mafia is found in Europe Portuguese bosses German bosses Dutch bosses etc.etc who want to get rich with cheaper labor. From here, more racism begins to emerge, such as parties of the extreme right, etc. etc.

                    THE . I was fine if all the borders have more control.

                    If the police in each country are corrupt, the example comes from the politicians of each nation in the European Union because they are also corrupt.

                    Friend when I was a child I believed in Santa Claus today I do not believe, what I believe, our world is increasingly governed by parasites, it is my opinion.

                    Word Union or with the woman in bed, only makes love when she wants ... Word E U never believed.

                    England lives better without the European Union.
                    We have examples of northern countries offending southern countries.

                    Finland Netherlands Germany Austria these countries offended Italy Greece Spain Portugal.


                    In technology, northern countries are richer, but southern countries are richer in agriculture.

                    Northern countries can eat their technology Southern countries eat rice potatoes cabbages onions olives etc and we drink wine those in the north eat ice and drink ice.
                    Northern countries have two seasons, southern countries have four seasons.
                    You don't want to offend anyone, but what I said is real.

                    Every country should think, we need each other. I'm sorry countries don't think that way.
                    I mean the politicians and people of all the countries of the E U

                    ...

                    A.EU é bom para deixar entrar terroristas máfias internacionais imigrantes clandestinos,no espáço Europeu.

                    A maior máfia se encontra na Europa patrões portuguêses patrões alemães patrões Holandeses etc.etc que querem enriquecer com a mão de obra mais barata. A partir daqui começa a nascer mais rácismo,como partidos da extrema direita etc.etc.

                    A . EU era bom se todas as fronteira ter mais control.

                    Se as policias de cada país são corruptas,o exemplo vem dos politicos de cada nação da União Europeia porque eles tambem são corruptos.

                    Amigo quando eu era criânça acreditava no Pai Natal hoje não acredito,o que eu acredito,o nosso mundo cada vez é governado por parasitas,é a minha opinião.

                    Palavra União nem com a mulher na cama,só faz amor quando ela quer... Palavra E U nunca acreditei.


                    Inglaterra vive melhor sem a União Europeia.
                    Temos exemplos os países do norte a ofender os países do sul.

                    Finlândia Holanda Alemanhã Austria estes países ofenderam Itália Grécia Espanha Portugal.


                    Em tecnologia os países do norte são mais ricos,mas os países do sul são mais ricos em agricultura.

                    Os países do norte podem comer a sua tecnologia os países do Sul comem arroz batatas couves cebolas azeitonas etc e bebemos vinho os do norte comem gêlo e bebem gêlo.
                    Os países do norte tem duas estações do ano os países do sul tem 4 estações do ano.
                    Não quer ofender ninguem,mas é real o que eu disse.


                    Todos países devia de pensar,precisamos uns dos outros.Tenho pena os países não pensam assim.
                    Me refiro aos politicos e populações de todos os países da E U


                    ( Provéio português .Ninguém é mais do que ninguém. )

                    (Portuguese proverb. Nobody is more than anyone. )

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Lusitano View Post
                      Until today, I have not seen the European Union contributing aid to Italy, Spain, perhaps tomorrow, Portugal like all the countries that are part of the Union that has helped Italy is China, I ask where the European Union is.
                      Post #7 of this thread : No one mandated the EU level with anything re health care in advance. It's all national systems.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Metryll View Post

                        Post #7 of this thread : No one mandated the EU level with anything re health care in advance. It's all national systems.
                        So with a loophole like that, the bureaucracy can do as it pleases, help who it feels like and blow-off anyone it decides to, to any degree.

                        Lusitano is right, the EU sucks!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Phaing View Post
                          So with a loophole like that, the bureaucracy can do as it pleases, help who it feels like and blow-off anyone it decides to, to any degree.
                          No. It is not a loophole. It is how the member states wanted it to be. They explicitly prevented the EU from having any competence on public health and/or healthcare level. None. This has only started to change in this March because of Coronavirus. Now the EU is actually allowed by the member states to gather stocks of essential materials to support the member states. Something which it had not previously been allowed to do, by the member states themselves.
                          Lusitano is right, the EU sucks!
                          It does so because the member states explicitly want that.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Phaing View Post
                            So with a loophole like that, the bureaucracy can do as it pleases, help who it feels like and blow-off anyone it decides to, to any degree.
                            EU can do nothing more that Members States allow it to do. And Members States did not gave EU any mandate over this kind of crisis.

                            Lusitano is right, the EU sucks!
                            You don't know what EU is...

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Lusitano View Post
                              Isn't the EU good for anything?
                              It actually is, for plenty. Public health and healthcare however were not included to the competences of the EU by the decision of the member states themselves.
                              A.EU is good at letting international illegal immigrant mafia terrorists enter the European space.
                              Wrong. Again the member states have explicitly prevented the EU from having any competence on that either. All that, as well as the responsibility for it, belongs to the member states themselves.
                              From here, more racism begins to emerge, such as parties of the extreme right, etc. etc.
                              Again, more stuff the EU has no control over. All that belongs to the member states themselves. The only actual limits are what the EU has in its charter which are more or less guidelines and a requirement to uphold the ECHR and the rulings of the ECtHR. The EU itself has very little power on that - exactly like the member states wanted it to be.
                              I was fine if all the borders have more control.
                              Which is not possible for the EU to affect until it actually has powers over those borders which it still does not.
                              If the police in each country are corrupt...
                              Again matters which belong to the member states. The EU actually has tried to act against corruption but is being prevented from having much powers on it by the member states. Yet you are blaming the EU for that?
                              Every country should think, we need each other.
                              The goal of the EU is exactly this. That we are stronger together.

                              For some one complaining about the EU and what it should do you seem to know precious little as to what the EU even is and how it works.
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