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  • Snowygerry
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    Originally posted by E.D. Morel View Post
    From Father Ted,
    I've seen it around, never watched it, will check it out thanks

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  • E.D. Morel
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    Originally posted by Snowygerry View Post
    "Own we this sort of thing" ?
    "Down with this sort of thing". From Father Ted, the satirical TV show set around a house full of Priests on "Craggy Island" off the West coast of Ireland. The Parish priests was an atheist, the young priest was an idiot and the old priests was an alcoholic. It was brilliant.

    When the Russians and Polish fans were beating lumps out of each other during the Euro Championships a few years ago a few Irish fans took the opportunity to stand nearby holding copies of these signs.

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  • Snowygerry
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    "Own we this sort of thing" ?

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  • Gooner
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    Originally posted by MarkV View Post

    Irrelevant - the problem is that after Brexit it could be an open door through which non compliant goods could flow. The volume today matters not - it's what it could become.
    image.jpg

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  • Johan Banér
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    Originally posted by Gooner View Post

    What 'reality'? That the cross border trade between NI and the ROI is about 0.1% of all the EUs external trade?
    NOW it is. If it is an unguarded door it could be anything.

    Having an unguarded door into the single market means anyone can use it for anything. And no one will know because no one will be paying attention. (Indirectly we will eventually find out by weird things turning up and happening.)

    The UK under BJ position is essentially "Just trust us". Why? In particular since the UK won't be paying attention either, while demanding the EU does not.

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  • MarkV
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    Originally posted by Gooner View Post

    What 'reality'? That the cross border trade between NI and the ROI is about 0.1% of all the EUs external trade?
    Irrelevant - the problem is that after Brexit it could be an open door through which non compliant goods could flow. The volume today matters not - it's what it could become.

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  • Gooner
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    Originally posted by Johan Banér View Post
    Well I'm sorry of reality offends you.
    What 'reality'? That the cross border trade between NI and the ROI is about 0.1% of all the EUs external trade?

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  • Gooner
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    Originally posted by Vaeltaja View Post
    Actually now you are misleading more than a bit. Coveney did not state they would hold border checks away from border but that they would try to do so if possible. If anything he reaffirmed the Irish intention to make sure the border is secure by using checks. Just the he would hope that some solution would allow for the checks to be done away from the border if possible. I hope you can appreciate the subtle difference there.
    No, the question is just the same '
    The question not being answered is if the checks are going to be away from the border in case of no deal, why not have the deal and checks away from the border?'

    The Irish PM stated that in the event of no-deal "There will be checks on goods and live animals and as far as possible these will take place in the ports, airports and at business level. But some may need to take place near the border."


    You do know that holding border checks actually on the border is not a WTO requirement, right? Indeed if it eases trade the WTO prefers them to be away from the border.

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  • MarkV
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    Originally posted by Johan Banér View Post
    Well I'm sorry of reality offends you.
    I think you are getting confused between being offended by reality and recognising reality when it bites you in the ar**. Borises exciteers are the grand masters when it comes to self delusion. Arguing with them is a waste of energy.

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  • Johan Banér
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    Originally posted by Gooner View Post
    Blablabla ... defend the Single Market ... blablabla.

    The question not being answered is if the checks are going to be away from the border in case of no deal, why not have the a deal and checks away from the border?

    D'uh.
    Well I'm sorry of reality offends you.

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  • marktwain
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    Originally posted by Gooner View Post
    Blablabla ... defend the Single Market ... blablabla.

    The question not being answered is if the checks are going to be away from the border in case of no deal, why not have the a deal and checks away from the border?

    D'uh.
    That would hamper slipping British fish into the Eu via the 'Irish conduit.' Remember the pig merry go round of the 1990's?

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  • Von Richter
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    I reckon Depiffle's management of our Country's going to last about as long as Big Sam did with England and Cloughie's at dirty Leeds!


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  • Vaeltaja
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    Originally posted by Gooner View Post
    The question not being answered is if the checks are going to be away from the border in case of no deal, why not have the a deal and checks away from the border?
    Actually now you are misleading more than a bit. Coveney did not state they would hold border checks away from border but that they would try to do so if possible. If anything he reaffirmed the Irish intention to make sure the border is secure by using checks. Just the he would hope that some solution would allow for the checks to be done away from the border if possible. I hope you can appreciate the subtle difference there.

    Edit: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49587610 (BBC: Brexit: Ireland will 'try' to impose checks away from border in no-deal)

    TLDR:
    Mr Coveney said the Irish government would not allow the country to be "dragged out of the EU single market by default as a result of Brexit".
    Last edited by Vaeltaja; 05 Sep 19, 09:53.

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  • Gooner
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    Blablabla ... defend the Single Market ... blablabla.

    The question not being answered is if the checks are going to be away from the border in case of no deal, why not have the a deal and checks away from the border?

    D'uh.

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  • Johan Banér
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    Originally posted by Gooner View Post
    If they can institute checks away from the border in the event of No Deal, why not in the event of a backstopectomied deal..? "

    https://order-order.com/

    And we are expected to believe the EU negotiates in good faith.
    Yes. And a backstopectomied deal is the same as no deal in relation to the need to defend the EU customs union and single market.

    You have always been able to rely on that the EU WILL defend the customs union and single market. At every turn has the UK been told this. It is however inconvenient for the UK, and Brexiters just refuse to believe it.

    There is simply no point for the EU to give up in either the customs union or the single market. Sure a no-deal Brexit will be disruptive, and in the relatively immediate future. But the slow-burn disruption of allowing the UK to gut the CU and SM like that would be potentially much worse, if slower.

    There is just no upside to accommodating the UK over this. Either the EU gets to deal a no-deal Brexit, or it starts phasing out its own single market. It cannot accept a third-nation-UK disrupting it from the inside. And if the EU won't defend itself, no one will. Certainly not the UK.

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