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  • Originally posted by ljadw View Post

    What problems ? There are no problems, but only the refusal of the Eurocrats to respect the will of the British people : it did not take 3 years to implement the result of the 1975 referendum thus, why is it so that after 3 years there is still no Brexit ?
    There are problems to be solved. If British cannot decide if they want borders or not, why it should be a problem for Europeans ? British should have thought about EVERYTHING before voting.
    There are no Nazis in Ukraine. © Idiots

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    • Originally posted by Emtos View Post

      There are problems to be solved. If British cannot decide if they want borders or not, why it should be a problem for Europeans ? British should have thought about EVERYTHING before voting.
      Do you understand what a border is?

      The EU has been trying to solve the problems for the UK, but in the end since the UK want's irreconcilable things, and then turns out to be so far unable to make a choice (absolutely necessary) about what it wants, there's only so much the EU can do to help.

      The only limitation on EU helpfulness so far is that the member states will not accept policies that would actually hurt the EU itself on the UK's behalf.

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      • Seeing how the British government has been dealing with the issue for the past 2 months.....my conclusion is they haven't a clue what to do, or how to do it. What would it take for someone in Parliament to grow a pair, stand up in the House and declare, "We don't know what we're doing"? Some integrity might be saved by admitting you're hopelessly lost.
        You'll live, only the best get killed.

        -General Charles de Gaulle

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        • Only the other day looney Brexiteer Liam Fox made a very public and very offensive remark about Macron''s wife. The same Liam Fox who tried to hide the fact his 'young male friend' was having a sleep-over with him the night he was burgled. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-Grayling.html

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          • Originally posted by m kenny View Post
            Only the other day looney Brexiteer Liam Fox made a very public and very offensive remark about Macron''s wife. The same Liam Fox who tried to hide the fact his 'young male friend' was having a sleep-over with him the night he was burgled. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-Grayling.html
            Meh....in France people have been publicly referring to Brigitte Macron as "E.T.".

            If Liam Fox enjoys fudge-packing, that is his choice....it's 2019 after all. So long as he is not declaring himself as some kind sage bearing the torch of morality. It can't be as pathetically silly as Farage's "Brexit March" across Britain.
            You'll live, only the best get killed.

            -General Charles de Gaulle

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            • Originally posted by asterix View Post

              Meh....in France people have been publicly referring to Brigitte Macron as "E.T.".
              A pig is a pig is a cochon...............and yes 'having a taste' for young men is not illegal- so why deny it happened?

              Reminds me of the Time Kevin Spacey was visiting London and went to the police to report the theft of his Phone. After it came out the thief was a very young man who was making wild accusations about the sexual proclivities of one K Spacey he discontinued his theft claim. I mean who would possible believe the absurd claims Kevin Spacey was a homosexual............

              https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...n-mugging.html

              When with this type of character assassination end? Next they will be claiming Liberace was gay!
              Last edited by m kenny; 07 Apr 19, 12:03.

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              • Originally posted by Vaeltaja View Post
                How do you figure that? The UK is free to leave - it just can not leave with all the perks intact. And it still needs to honor its prior commitments like the GFA. The EU has been willing to hear any proposals from the UK which would solve the Irish border question but so far there hasn't been anything which would have been remotely realistic apart from the backstop.
                Why can it not leave with all the perks intact ?
                There are no problems for the Irish border : Northern Ireland is a part of the UK,and if Britain leaves, NI leaves .
                Britain is a sovereign nation, and it can decide to leave the EU,which is not a sovereign nation .
                And why should it honor its prior commitments : a sovereign nation does not need to honor prior commitments .

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                • Originally posted by m kenny View Post

                  A pig is a pig is a cochon...............and yes 'having a taste' for young men is not illegal- so why deny it happened?

                  Reminds me of the Time Kevin Spacey was visiting London and went to the police to report the theft of his Phone. After it came out the thief was a very young man who was making wild accusations about the sexual proclivities of one K Spacey he discontinued his theft claim. I mean who would possible believe the absurd claims Kevin Spacey was a homosexual............

                  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...n-mugging.html

                  When with this type of character assassination end? Next they will be claiming Liberace was gay!
                  Some people have harder times accepting who and what they are like you lefty loony when you realize someday that you’re a crazy fruitcake lefty loony you’ll be a better person for it and not judge others so harshly that you’re doing at the moment to cover up your own pain.
                  Good luck on your journey of self realization wacko.

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                  • Originally posted by ljadw View Post
                    Why can it not leave with all the perks intact ?
                    Because they are contingent on being a member of the EU. You can't have those and remain outside. The sole alternative is to paying for such access into the EU budget in which case you need to follow the EU rules regardless but you can't affect them.
                    There are no problems for the Irish border : Northern Ireland is a part of the UK,and if Britain leaves, NI leaves .
                    Which directly violates the underlying fudge of the Irish peace agreement (essentially the 'non-agreement' of having access to all of Ireland for all the Irish). This is the whole reason why the EU insisted upon the backstop since there were no other workable solution. The EU is open to alternative solutions but they need to something that is functional and available now instead of existing in some inventor's wet dreams (Sabine Weyand has several comments with regards to this). Of course the UK can decide to renegade its commitments to the GFA - but again every choice has its consequences.
                    Britain is a sovereign nation, and it can decide to leave the EU,which is not a sovereign nation .
                    The EU is a supranational entity - union of sovereign nations. And the UK is free to leave it. No one is stopping it. What just needs to be realized that there will be consequences of such decisions but is fully up to the UK to decide on that. It is impossible for the EU to force the UK to remain - on the other hand the EU can not force the UK to leave either.
                    And why should it honor its prior commitments : a sovereign nation does not need to honor prior commitments .
                    It kinda needs if it wants ever to have any kind of agreement with any other sovereign nation. Like trade agreements. You do understand that renegading commitments makes the country untrustworthy. And would hence only increase the demands other countries place for it for an agreement since they can not trust it. It is a spiral leading only to bad and even worse results.
                    It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, it is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed. The hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion

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                    • Originally posted by ljadw View Post

                      3 years ago the British people demanded Brexit, there is still no Brexit because the opponents of Brexit are delaying it,hoping that this would kill Brexit .
                      How long took it for the 1975 referendum to be implemented ?
                      If opponents of Brexit had ability to stop Brexit, article 50 would have been revoked. If Brexit take 3 years to be implemented is lack of common vision between Leavers about which kind of Brexit is to be achieved.

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                      • Originally posted by Snowshoveler View Post


                        Good luck on your journey of self realization wacko.
                        Just come out. It will ease your pain and give you a backbone. Then you can stop being the timid frightened creature who lives in such mortal fear of everything they need the comfort of a gun to make life tolerable. .

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                        • Originally posted by ljadw View Post

                          What problems ? There are no problems, but only the refusal of the Eurocrats to respect the will of the British people : it did not take 3 years to implement the result of the 1975 referendum thus, why is it so that after 3 years there is still no Brexit ?
                          Which Eurocrats ? Barnier handle and make report directly to his bosses : the 27 Head of States making the EU.

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                          • Originally posted by m kenny View Post
                            Just come out. It will ease your pain and give you a backbone. Then you can stop being the timid frightened creature who lives in such mortal fear of everything they need the comfort of a gun to make life tolerable. .
                            I’ve worked out my demons good luck with yours Miss Kenny.

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                            • Originally posted by Vaeltaja View Post

                              It kinda needs if it wants ever to have any kind of agreement with any other sovereign nation. Like trade agreements. You do understand that renegading commitments makes the country untrustworthy. And would hence only increase the demands other countries place for it for an agreement since they can not trust it. It is a spiral leading only to bad and even worse results.
                              That's for the British only to decide;you are not British, nor am I ; thus you cvan't deny them the right to renegade commitments .

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                              • Originally posted by Metryll View Post

                                Which Eurocrats ? Barnier handle and make report directly to his bosses : the 27 Head of States making the EU.
                                The Heads of States do not make the EU .

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