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Originally posted by Surrey View PostOne test on the likelyhoid of a wto exit is how panicky the Irish get. From the reaction of the Irish poster Wto is now looking very likely.
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I also find that lack of a need for supermajority to be very peculiar. Here the constitutional level changes require either (I) passing with the sitting parliament and then passing on supermajority (2/3) of the next parliament or (II) if it is urgent then it can be done by the sitting parliament with 5/6 majority. Of course in the British system the winner takes it all and the rest are largely ignored so there is no culture of genuine consensus building and agreement reaching. Instead it seems to rely more on having majority in the parliament and forcing through your own will.It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, it is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed. The hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion
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It is worth remembering that the entire Brexit process, for all it's faults, for all the lies and scaremongering and nationalism and Jingoism and bigotry and racism as well as all the legitimate concerns voices, is a triumph of democracy within the UK. It is, in historical terms, a relatively recent thing that matters of this divisive nature are settled without bloodshed. It is therefore noteworthy that the culture of democracy is sufficiently deep-rooted in the UK to withstand Brexit without anyone really considering any alternative method of resolution.
That is the triumph of Western democracy and it is a rare thing in this world today, let alone historically."The thing about quotes on the internet is that you cannot confirm their
validity." - Abraham Lincoln.
"Nothing's going to change while one side it lying about the cause and the other is lying about the solution" - Me
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Originally posted by E.D. Morel View PostIt is worth remembering that the entire Brexit process, for all it's faults, for all the lies and scaremongering and nationalism and Jingoism and bigotry and racism as well as all the legitimate concerns voices, is a triumph of democracy within the UK. It is, in historical terms, a relatively recent thing that matters of this divisive nature are settled without bloodshed. It is therefore noteworthy that the culture of democracy is sufficiently deep-rooted in the UK to withstand Brexit without anyone really considering any alternative method of resolution.
That is the triumph of Western democracy and it is a rare thing in this world today, let alone historically."To be free is better than to be unfree - always."
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Originally posted by Metryll View Post
Will of British government, not an EU decision.
"To be free is better than to be unfree - always."
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MPs have siezed control and taken the decisions away from May
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47701591
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Originally posted by slick_miester View Post
Back in the day I used to participate in a different forum (now defunct) where a most well-read and affable Frenchman also posted. According to this gentleman, France usually holds elections on Sundays, and French voters tend to show up at the polls after lunch -- after they've polished off a few gallons of wine. Consequently, they often voted for stupid stuff -- like Jean-Marie Le Pen's FN party -- at least in the preliminary round. Then, a week or so later, for the final run-off, they sober up and vote for a real party. One has to wonder if some share of British voters behaved similarly, voting for Brexit as a goof, but never thinking seriously on the subject, perhaps due to traditional British inebriation.
Not inebriation, but a large part of the, "Leave," vote was an attempt to knock the self-satisfied smirk off Cameron's face. He subsequently had it away on his toes, prompting Jonathan Pye to point out, "Everyone who f*ck*d up has f*ck*d off, and the only people in that building talking any sense," waves at parliament, "Are the Scottish, who DON'T WANT TO BE THERE !"Indyref2 - still, "Yes."
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Originally posted by E.D. Morel View PostThats the sort of stupid, jingoistic, mindless, antagonist, offensive nonsense that rational people in the UK, Ireland and the mainland find so difficult to engage with. It’s like something from General Melchett, Stephen Fry’s character in the last series of Blackadder.
Are you a fan of Rudyard Kipling’s more bigoted works?
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Originally posted by Von Richter View Post
I suspect it is because UK citizens consume more health services in those countries on the mainland than their citizens consume in the UK.
If that is the case then there's no problem. If not then the reasons are worth examining. Either way the statistics on their own are meaningless. It is typical of the hyperbolic nonsense trotted out by pro-Brexit politicians.Last edited by E.D. Morel; 27 Mar 19, 04:43."The thing about quotes on the internet is that you cannot confirm their
validity." - Abraham Lincoln.
"Nothing's going to change while one side it lying about the cause and the other is lying about the solution" - Me
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Theresa May has reportedly told MP's that she will step down before the next phase of Brexit negotiations."The thing about quotes on the internet is that you cannot confirm their
validity." - Abraham Lincoln.
"Nothing's going to change while one side it lying about the cause and the other is lying about the solution" - Me
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Yeah, well, whatever. Lets take a look at the big picture.
The Germans pay most, the UK second best (or worst, depending on whatever you prefer).
Net contrib Euros by R. Bezoen, on Flickr
And as defined per head of the population (% of gross national income).
Guess what. The UK is only ninth contributor per head. Bummer.
It's not as much a burden for the people as is always claimed to be.
Net contrib of GNI by R. Bezoen, on Flickr
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