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  • Originally posted by Surrey View Post

    It has just been called off. May has decided that therewill now be no Brexit. Ordinary people are too stupid to be allowed to vote.
    If only that were true (the first bit, the rest is true).
    "The thing about quotes on the internet is that you cannot confirm their
    validity." - Abraham Lincoln.
    "Nothing's going to change while one side it lying about the cause and the other is lying about the solution" - Me

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    • Originally posted by Gooner View Post
      Withdrawal on March 29th was an act of Parliament. It would take another act of Parliament to delay it and approval by all the remaining EU 27.
      Which is what May has committed to doing.
      "To be free is better than to be unfree - always."

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      • The Adults got themselves organised to prevent a No-Deal Brexit. The loony Brexiteers got too cocky. Now the sensible MPs are demanding it is done properly or they will vote May down. The crackpot 'leave -at-an-price' mob are a minority.

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        • Originally posted by m kenny View Post
          The Adults got themselves organised to prevent a No-Deal Brexit. The loony Brexiteers got too cocky. Now the sensible MPs are demanding it is done properly or they will vote May down. The crackpot 'leave -at-an-price' mob are a minority.
          A withdrawal agreement is more important to the EU than it is to the UK.
          The only danger from a no deal exit is the capriciousness of the EU Commission.
          The Commissions potential for malice is of course a good justification of the British peoples decision to leave the EU, nicht wahr?

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          • Originally posted by Gooner View Post

            A withdrawal agreement is more important to the EU than it is to the UK.
            The only danger from a no deal exit is the capriciousness of the EU Commission.
            The Commissions potential for malice is of course a good justification of the British peoples decision to leave the EU, nicht wahr?
            Why are the Brexiteers so obsessed with childishly framing this as some sort of continuation of the Second World War?

            Why do you think a withdrawal agreement is more important to the EU than it is to the UK?
            "The thing about quotes on the internet is that you cannot confirm their
            validity." - Abraham Lincoln.
            "Nothing's going to change while one side it lying about the cause and the other is lying about the solution" - Me

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            • Originally posted by Gooner View Post
              A withdrawal agreement is more important to the EU than it is to the UK.
              That has been the assumption all along - but isn't really apparent from the facts.

              Your political system is falling apart, your PM doesn't know her head from her arse anymore, your parliament is all over the place, as is your electorate.

              While over here people are simply preparing for the practical consequences of a no-deal exit.



              High Admiral Snowy, Commander In Chief of the Naval Forces of The Phoenix Confederation.

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              • Originally posted by E.D. Morel View Post
                Why are the Brexiteers so obsessed with childishly framing this as some sort of continuation of the Second World War?
                Saw a funny clip somewhere of an Englishman telling how his great grandfather died in WWI, while his grandfather died in WWII, somehow almost implying he would die during Brexit I
                High Admiral Snowy, Commander In Chief of the Naval Forces of The Phoenix Confederation.

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                • Originally posted by Snowygerry View Post
                  While over here people are simply preparing for the practical consequences of a no-deal exit.
                  You haven't even been told yet what the practical consequences of a no-deal exit will be.
                  They could be big or not so big. That is upto the EU Commission.

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                  • Originally posted by E.D. Morel View Post

                    Why are the Brexiteers so obsessed with childishly framing this as some sort of continuation of the Second World War?
                    Where was the WWII reference?

                    Why do you think a withdrawal agreement is more important to the EU than it is to the UK?
                    To help stop the continentals going bonkers.

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                    • Originally posted by Gooner View Post
                      You haven't even been told yet what the practical consequences of a no-deal exit will be.
                      They could be big or not so big. That is upto the EU Commission.
                      Not really - if no deal, trade with the UK reverts to WTO rules which in first order means import tariffs and customs checks on anything coming direct across the Channel.

                      Surely not unimaginable or undoable - if bothersome.

                      https://economie.fgov.be/nl/themas/o...neming-voor-op
                      High Admiral Snowy, Commander In Chief of the Naval Forces of The Phoenix Confederation.

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                      • Originally posted by Snowygerry View Post

                        Not really - if no deal, trade with the UK reverts to WTO rules which in first order means import tariffs
                        Except that it doesn't. Pesky Article 24 and common sense dictate that it needn't.

                        and customs checks on anything coming direct across the Channel.
                        Antwerp currently inspects 1% of all containers arriving there.

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                        • Originally posted by Gooner View Post

                          Where was the WWII reference?
                          The constant reference by that blustering windbag Borris, your throwing in a bit of German at the end of your post, the references to the blitz spirit etc. It's crazy.


                          Originally posted by Gooner View Post
                          To help stop the continentals going bonkers.
                          If that was what they wanted they would opt for a total quarantine of the UK so that their Brexit disease doesn't spread.

                          "The thing about quotes on the internet is that you cannot confirm their
                          validity." - Abraham Lincoln.
                          "Nothing's going to change while one side it lying about the cause and the other is lying about the solution" - Me

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                          • Originally posted by Gooner View Post
                            Except that it doesn't. Pesky Article 24 and common sense dictate that it needn't.
                            But 60 years of EU treaties suggest that it will.

                            Antwerp currently inspects 1% of all containers arriving there.
                            There's no need physically inspect containers to apply tariffs - surely you know that ?

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                            • "If that was what they wanted they would opt for a total quarantine of the UK so that their Brexit disease doesn't spread."

                              That would be an act of war!

                              Do you really think it that great that Europe with its long history of difference and diversity should be moving to just one model? Ein EU, ein Euro, ein Commission, ein, uh, six or seven Presidents.

                              What has been so wonderful about Europe is surely in part its un-unity?
                              Last edited by Gooner; 27 Feb 19, 07:54.

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                              • Originally posted by Snowygerry View Post

                                But 60 years of EU treaties suggest that it will.
                                How? Why? You think that the vast quantity of paper the EU has generated over the years somehow absolves the EU Commission of any decision it makes. And it will be a decision, don't kid yourself about that.

                                There's no need physically inspect containers to apply tariffs - surely you know that ?
                                Sure, but there is no need to apply physical checks on everything coming from the UK.
                                Though if that happens that is again confirmation that the British were right in voting to leave!

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