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  • For remainers it is not! They want to stay in all its form, including taking up the Euro, opening the borders and relegate the UK to a mere county.
    What is it now, with or without the EU?
    "Ask not what your country can do for you"

    Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

    youíre entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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    • Originally posted by Rutger View Post
      Your claim, it's up to you to prove it.

      I suppose you have information to back this up, such as polls or statistics that "they" want what you claim "they" want.

      And no, replying with the conditions of the EU for a return has nothing to do with remainers allegedly wanting the Euro, wanting to open the borders etc.
      It doesn't matter what the remainers want it's what they will get. Like I said in my last: 'just as soon as my request is answered.'
      ‘Tis said his form is tiny, yet
      All human ills he can subdue,
      Or with a bauble or medal
      Can win mans heart for you;
      And many a blessing know to stew
      To make a megloamaniac bright;
      Give honour to the dainty Corse,
      The Pixie is a little shite.

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      • Originally posted by m kenny View Post

        The arguments are over how we leave.
        There is a small minority of EU hating little englanders who have demanded that their extreme view of 'leaving' prevail and we cut all connections to The EU .
        They are opposed by a larger number of leavers who want some connection to The EU but not full membership.
        The problem is not the actual leaving but the terms of the divorce.
        The nutcases have decided that they, and they alone, should decide the matter and have become completely unhinged when Parliament thwarted their 'cunning plan'

        What alternative reality did you get that from?

        The choice - in Parliament - seems to be Theresa May's 'deal' or a no deal.
        Those planning not to vote for TMs deal include the Labour Party, the SNP, the DUP the LibDems and Plaid Cymru en bloc.

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        • Originally posted by Rutger View Post
          Your claim, it's up to you to prove it.

          I suppose you have information to back this up, such as polls or statistics that "they" want what you claim "they" want.

          And no, replying with the conditions of the EU for a return has nothing to do with remainers allegedly wanting the Euro, wanting to open the borders etc.

          Well if there was referendum which asked the UK public whether they wanted to leave or wanted to remain in the EU but had to sign up for the Euro, scrap all their opt-outs and commit to 'Ever Closer Union', the result would be a long way from 52%-48%!

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          • Originally posted by Gooner View Post

            What alternative reality did you get that from?

            The choice - in Parliament - seems to be Theresa May's 'deal' or a no deal.
            Those planning not to vote for TMs deal include the Labour Party, the SNP, the DUP the LibDems and Plaid Cymru en bloc.
            Plus 100+ Conservative MPs if the numbers who voted against TM in the confidence vote are anything to go on.

            TM has been trying to persuade some of the Blarite Labour MPs to vote for her plan but cant see her getting many. Corbyn hates the EU thus the assumption is the great bulk of Labour MPs will vote against.
            "To be free is better than to be unfree - always."

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            • Originally posted by Surrey View Post

              Plus 100+ Conservative MPs if the numbers who voted against TM in the confidence vote are anything to go on.

              TM has been trying to persuade some of the Blarite Labour MPs to vote for her plan but cant see her getting many. Corbyn hates the EU thus the assumption is the great bulk of Labour MPs will vote against.
              That presumes Opposition MPs vote on Party Lines. If it was a free vote then the looney Brexiteers would be well and truly outvoted.

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              • Originally posted by Gooner View Post


                Well if there was referendum which asked the UK public whether they wanted to leave or wanted to remain in the EU but had to sign up for the Euro, scrap all their opt-outs and commit to 'Ever Closer Union', the result would be a long way from 52%-48%!
                And that is exactly my point
                "For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return"

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                • Brexit Apocalypse , run for your lives!!!!!!



                  Hilarious -

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgToZXtv6hY






                  "Why is the Rum gone?"

                  -Captain Jack

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                  • Just make up your minds. In or out, enough of your fk drama
                    "Ask not what your country can do for you"

                    Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

                    youíre entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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                    • Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
                      Just make up your minds. In or out, enough of your fk drama
                      The peopleís minds were made up over two years ago. The problem is the desperate attempts by EU supporting MPs and media to prevent Britain leaving the EU.
                      "To be free is better than to be unfree - always."

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                      • And May's plan has been rejected by the House. Next step is presumably a vote of no confidence and possibly a general election. LoL.
                        "Sometimes its better to light a flamethrower than to curse the darkness" T Pratchett

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                        • And, Brexit is now pegging the meter...

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                          • Originally posted by DARKPLACE View Post
                            And May's plan has been rejected by the House. Next step is presumably a vote of no confidence and possibly a general election. LoL.
                            The NC vote is on, but I'm not convinced it will get up. If there is one thing the Tories & the DUP can all agree on it is that they don't want Corbyn in No.10. Labour, the SNP & a few others can get a bit over 300 votes. If the Lib Dems join in they can get close to the Tories, but the DUP will stay staunch. It will still take a number of Tories to sit out the vote for May to lose.

                            I suppose we will find out how much the Brexiteers hate May.
                            Human beings are the only creatures on Earth that claim a god and the only living thing that behaves like it hasn't got one - Hunter S. Thompson

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                            • The most likely options now seem to be a hard brexit or a third referendum (the first was when the UK joined the EU).

                              The Tories will win the no confidence vote. Thereís no way the DUP will vote for anything which might make Corbyn MP, even though heís more of a Brexiteer than May.

                              We now know what the UK doesnít want but after two and a half years we are still no closer to knowing what they do want.
                              Itís a difficult thing for the EU to deal with as the UK is essentially asking to EU to change the fundamentals of what it is and to do so without knowing if the UK will be happy with the outcome.

                              The last time the UK was in this sort of negotiations it was giving freedom to the countries it had invaded and occupied in order to form its empire. It needs to realise that this isnít the same thing.
                              "The thing about quotes on the internet is that you cannot confirm their
                              validity." - Abraham Lincoln.
                              "Nothing's going to change while one side it lying about the cause and the other is lying about the solution" - Me

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                              • Originally posted by E.D. Morel View Post
                                (Ö)
                                The Tories will win the no confidence vote. Thereís no way the DUP will vote for anything which might make Corbyn MP, even though heís more of a Brexiteer than May.
                                That means no general election then, and since May won't resign either - what now ?

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                                Itís a difficult thing for the EU to deal with as the UK is essentially asking to EU to change the fundamentals of what it is and to do so without knowing if the UK will be happy with the outcome.
                                I don't know if they're asking anything atm ? Seen from here, it just appears that the UK electorate, government and parliament all want different things.

                                Looking at the pictures from London yesterday, both supporters and opponents of Brexit were cheering the defeat of May's proposals

                                High Admiral Snowy, Commander In Chief of the Naval Forces of The Phoenix Confederation.
                                Major Atticus Finch - ACW Rainbow Co.

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