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  • Urban hermit
    started a topic The Great German Meltdown

    The Great German Meltdown

    i read this editorial today and thought I’d share it just to see how long it takes for others to attack me instead of discussing the points made in the piece.
    i don’t think I will have to wait long.

    “In a perfect world, Germany would address its frustrations through introspection. After all, no one forced Berlin to take in over a million problematic refugees from the Middle East. No one forced it to export goods on easy credit to leveraged buyers who visibly lived far above their means. No one forced it to renege on its NATO defense promises and responsibilities. No one forced it to have a long and catastrophic history with the Jewish people. And no one forces it to expect perpetual U.S. military protection while continually setting record trade surpluses.
    Despite the long postwar history of U.S.-German friendship, and despite Germany’s financial and economic power, the country is becoming psychologically isolated, if not unhinged. While Germans broadcast their anti-Americanism, they seem oblivious that Americans may likewise be tiring of German petulance.
    If we are entering yet another historical period of dangerous German resentment, the ensuing result will bode ill for everyone involved.”
    https://www.hoover.org/research/great-german-meltdown

  • Half Pint John
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    Prove me wrong Donnie

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  • G David Bock
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    Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post

    Just like in American here there hasn't been an increase regardless what Trumps brain is telling you

    here dummie

    https://www.nationmaster.com/country...rime/Rape-rate

    US 14th

    Germany 43rd

    Make like a turkey and stuff it.
    Try reading your link. Data is from 2010, a bit out of date, not current.

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  • Half Pint John
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    Originally posted by G David Bock View Post

    Only the need for more vetting and background check for immigrant/refugees.

    Maybe you don't mind increased crime, especially against women, in your "new found land"?
    Just like in American here there hasn't been an increase regardless what Trumps brain is telling you

    here dummie

    https://www.nationmaster.com/country...rime/Rape-rate

    US 14th

    Germany 43rd

    Make like a turkey and stuff it.

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  • G David Bock
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    Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post

    A weapon for the AfD far right party. You can related to that.
    Only the need for more vetting and background check for immigrant/refugees.

    Maybe you don't mind increased crime, especially against women, in your "new found land"?

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  • Half Pint John
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    Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
    Being most recent thread of related nature ... (BTW, New Yorker only allows a few free article views) How a Teen’s Death Has Become a Political Weapon

    When a refugee killed a fourteen-year-old girl, Germany’s far right saw opportunity in tragedy.

    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...litical-weapon
    A weapon for the AfD far right party. You can related to that.

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  • G David Bock
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    Being most recent thread of related nature ... (BTW, New Yorker only allows a few free article views) How a Teen’s Death Has Become a Political Weapon

    When a refugee killed a fourteen-year-old girl, Germany’s far right saw opportunity in tragedy.

    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...litical-weapon

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  • Emtos
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    Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post

    No and no

    Plus you apparently have no idea why women are not happier today. There is very little connection between rights which bring obligations and happiness. Rights are vested in the individual but we collectively insist on them because communist tyrannies fail.
    What makes you say that ? You seen to have very little understanding about Germany, women and communism.

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  • wolfhnd
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    Originally posted by Emtos View Post

    Why do you believe they didn't understand ? They followed Hitler because he promised to make Germany great again and had a good start on doing so. Merkel accomplished it with Germany being the dominant power of EU and his de-facto leader.



    I see perfectly what they want. Somebody wanting to get back to 50's in regards of women rights, would be instantly ejected from modern politics in Europe.
    No and no

    Plus you apparently have no idea why women are not happier today. There is very little connection between rights which bring obligations and happiness. Rights are vested in the individual but we collectively insist on them because communist tyrannies fail.

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  • Emtos
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    Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post

    No it's why they didn't understand what Hitler or Merkel would result in.
    Why do you believe they didn't understand ? They followed Hitler because he promised to make Germany great again and had a good start on doing so. Merkel accomplished it with Germany being the dominant power of EU and his de-facto leader.

    Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post
    Women are more unhappy than they were in the 50's. You clearly don't understand them.
    I see perfectly what they want. Somebody wanting to get back to 50's in regards of women rights, would be instantly ejected from modern politics in Europe.

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  • wolfhnd
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    Originally posted by Emtos View Post

    Germans are more pragmatic than the Americans. They understand that all of this doesn't exist.
    No it's why they didn't understand what Hitler or Merkel would result in.

    Of course they wouldn't. We aren't in 19th century anymore. Today women will not stand home and get busy with kids. Theywant to be independent with their own income.
    Women are more unhappy than they were in the 50's. You clearly don't understand them.

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  • Emtos
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    Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post
    Germany is good at engineering but not so great when it comes to the big picture. American pragmatism philosophy should be required reading in German schools. Somehow they just can't grasp the idea of the divinity of all individuals, the nature of freewill and the relationship to meritocracy.
    Germans are more pragmatic than the Americans. They understand that all of this doesn't exist.

    Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post
    Germany doesn't need more workers as automation becomes more of a force in the world and if their economy was as good as people say they wouldn't turn their woman into wage slaves in support of some utopian dream. If one income in Germany could support a family and buy a house their women would opt into motherhood.
    Of course they wouldn't. We aren't in 19th century anymore. Today women will not stand home and get busy with kids. Theywant to be independent with their own income.

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  • Persephone
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    The same could be said for their newly immigrated workforce.
    If the millions of refugees pass their assimilation training, their women could opt into motherhood.

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  • wolfhnd
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    Germany is good at engineering but not so great when it comes to the big picture. American pragmatism philosophy should be required reading in German schools. Somehow they just can't grasp the idea of the divinity of all individuals, the nature of freewill and the relationship to meritocracy.

    Germany doesn't need more workers as automation becomes more of a force in the world and if their economy was as good as people say they wouldn't turn their woman into wage slaves in support of some utopian dream. If one income in Germany could support a family and buy a house their women would opt into motherhood.

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  • Persephone
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    Originally posted by slick_miester View Post

    BMW opened their plant in Spartanburg SC in 1993 or so. I heard about it in '92, and I was seriously tempted to go there. I think I would have liked building BMWs, though South Carolina would have stretched my tolerance to its limits.
    They are assembled in Spartanburg, SC. All the pieces are made in Germany, still.

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