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    Nigel Farage busy burning bridges on Britain's behalf.

    See his performance? .

    This idiot needs to have absolutely no say in negotiations .
    Nigel, If you love your country more than you hate European unity,
    STAY AWAY, your presence will make everything so much harder.

    Call me if you need to.

    Regards lodestar

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    Nigel Farage has no influence over this. The idea that European business and particularly German business will say screw that we're not dealing with them is laughable. Conciliatory noises have been coming from them since before Friday.

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    • #3
      Farrago has his metaphors crossed he tends to burn bridges before he crosses them
      Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe (H G Wells)
      Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens (Friedrich von Schiller)

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      • #4
        Originally posted by copenhagen View Post
        Nigel Farage has no influence over this. The idea that European business and particularly German business will say screw that we're not dealing with them is laughable. Conciliatory noises have been coming from them since before Friday.
        In case you haven't noticed its the politicians and their bureaucrats that actually do the negotiating
        Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe (H G Wells)
        Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens (Friedrich von Schiller)

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        • #5
          Originally posted by MarkV View Post
          In case you haven't noticed its the politicians and their bureaucrats that actually do the negotiating
          With very powerful influences breathing down their neck. That's how the real world works. German business controls Merkyll and Merkyl controls the EU. Juncker and even Hollande are Frau Merkylls bitches or hadn't you noticed.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by copenhagen View Post
            With very powerful influences breathing down their neck. That's how the real world works. German business controls Merkyll and Merkyl controls the EU. Juncker and even Hollande are Frau Merkylls bitches or hadn't you noticed.
            Don't you mean Madame Hollande and Herr Merkel?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by lodestar View Post
              Nigel Farage busy burning bridges on Britain's behalf.

              See his performance? .

              This idiot needs to have absolutely no say in negotiations .
              Nigel, If you love your country more than you hate European unity,
              STAY AWAY, your presence will make everything so much harder.

              Call me if you need to.

              Regards lodestar
              We need somebody like Farage in these negotiations,he is not a professional politician, he was never polished off in Eton and has deep anti eu convictions and even deeper knowledge of the true workings of Brussels, he should be asked to be special advisor to whoever we eventually send to treat with them.

              In any negotiations both sides must be stocked with those who are vehemently opposed to the others ideas and aspirations,in particular those being imposed on us.
              The eu side certainly is,have you seen Verhofstadt and Junckers and Schultz and Von Rumpoy and all of the others in their rabid espousals of their eu dream?

              Brings back dear memories to both commies and Nazis alike.

              What's wrong with having at least one rabid anti eu voice on your own side?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by flash View Post
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                What's wrong with having at least one rabid anti eu voice on your own side?
                Nothing safe of course that when one spit on the face of people with which he try to get a deal he'll fail.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by flash View Post
                  Don't you mean Madame Hollande and Herr Merkel?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by flash View Post
                    We need somebody like Farage in these negotiations,he is not a professional politician, he was never polished off in Eton and has deep anti eu convictions and even deeper knowledge of the true workings of Brussels, he should be asked to be special advisor to whoever we eventually send to treat with them.

                    In any negotiations both sides must be stocked with those who are vehemently opposed to the others ideas and aspirations,in particular those being imposed on us.
                    The eu side certainly is,have you seen Verhofstadt and Junckers and Schultz and Von Rumpoy and all of the others in their rabid espousals of their eu dream?

                    Brings back dear memories to both commies and Nazis alike.

                    What's wrong with having at least one rabid anti eu voice on your own side?
                    I'm going to disagree here. What Juncker and van rumpey pumpey said is BS. It's tough talk based on fear that is at odds with a lot of what we are hearing from quarters that ultimately have the influence . The German CBI for example and last night a French finance minister said there were no red lines and we had to come to an arrangement that's suits us both. The Finnish PM has said some thing similar. If we play cold hard business it'll be fine. If it's hubris and yelling , it won't. We both have things each other wants . Softly softly catchy monkey .

                    It's worth noting the New Zealand government on Monday offered to lend us their trade negotiators. We haven't had any since the 70's.
                    Last edited by copenhagen; 30 Jun 16, 08:01.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by copenhagen View Post
                      I'm going to disagree here. What Juncker and van rumpey pumpey said is BS. It's tough talk based on fear that is at odds with a lot of what we are hearing from quarters that ultimately have the influence . The German CBI for example and last night a French finance minister said there were no red lines and we had to come to an arrangement that's suits us both. The Finnish PM has said some thing similar. If we play cold hard business it'll be fine. If it's hubris and yelling , it won't. We both have things each other wants . Softly softly catchy monkey .

                      It's worth noting the New Zealand government on Monday offered to lend us their trade negotiators. We haven't had any since the 70's.
                      Yes,rumpey and Junckers and co might be all mouth and no trousers but I think we should go in for the kill and shut them up once and for all.
                      This will never be achieved with ineffectives such as we have at present.
                      The eu needs to be shown to be the weakling it truly is so that our continental cousins can also break their bonds with it.

                      What we need in the negotiation team is some stiff backed individuals,even Lamont would be better than whoever we can scrape up presently.
                      Farage may be deemed uncouth by the eu junta but meh! So what!

                      The problem is that over the past 25 years we have bred yes men rather than why men.

                      I like to use the pub landlord comparison here:

                      If we have a brash,loud publican who can pick which brewery and which food to serve and is effective at keeping pondlife out of his pub compared to a pub manager who has the beer and food dictated to him and who must consult head office before he can make the most trivial decision who do you expect runs the better establishment?

                      The loud and often uncouth but single minded man always has the edge over the yes man in my opinion.

                      Farage should not be the captain but he must be in the team,if only for his extensive knowledge of how the eu conducts business.
                      At the very least our negotiators simply must consist of referendum winners,not sad,tail between their legs losers.
                      Send May and other cowards and there will be yet another folding of intent,mark my words.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Metryll View Post
                        Nothing safe of course that when one spit on the face of people with which he try to get a deal he'll fail.
                        I'm through with you Metryll,the only reason I haven't blocked you is because I like to know what drivel the losing side is spouting.

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                        • #13
                          The BDI doesn't seem to be saying anything nearly as positive as what has been reported in Britain, at least not in German:
                          https://www.qz-online.de/news/uebers...t-1424529.html

                          And the French offer — seemingly undercuts German statements to the effect that imigration isn't on the negotiating table — well, the French are eying the British finance industry.

                          It has been pointed out that Paris might like the idea of granting the UK access to the common market, and the right to restrict imigration, in return for effectively screwing the British finance industry over, since Paris is looking to pick it up.

                          Count your fingers before shaking on any deal with the French over this.

                          This is at least a semblance of what the actual negotiations might look like. What do you want, and more important what is it worth to you? And it's not just the UK that can make wish-lists.

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                          • #14
                            And every time he opens his gob, he makes his listeners that little bit less sympathetic to the UK.

                            If you don't put a muzzle on him, you might find yourselves on the wrong end of a blockade.
                            Indyref2 - still, "Yes."

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by the ace View Post
                              And every time he opens his gob, he makes his listeners that little bit less sympathetic to the UK.

                              If you don't put a muzzle on him, you might find yourselves on the wrong end of a blockade.
                              Fog in the channel. Europe cut off.

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