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  • O.U.T spells OUT!

    Inhabitants of this little north Atlantic island of ours. Brittania Major - the big island - which houses us Welsh, English and Scots.

    Let's get ourselves the out of the bureaucratic, undemoracratic, pile of federalist shite that is the EU.

    It's our one and only chance and if this goes against us then what hope is there?

    I've not met a single person who wants to stay in, but the polls are saying otherwise. How, where, what? Where are all these EU federalists among us, because I've never met one of them.

    VOTE OUT!
    "COOMMAAAAAAANNNNDOOOO!!!!!"
    - Mad Jack Churchill.

  • #2
    It could be that phenomenon whereby someone wants to avoid the social friction caused by expressing a certain political opinion but freely expresses it to opinion poll operators. So the EU federalists may be among you but preferring to remain "covert".

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    • #3
      No one seems to care to be honest.
      Wisdom is personal

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Tuck's Luck View Post
        Inhabitants of this little north Atlantic island of ours. Brittania Major - the big island - which houses us Welsh, English and Scots.

        Let's get ourselves the out of the bureaucratic, undemoracratic, pile of federalist shite that is the EU.

        It's our one and only chance and if this goes against us then what hope is there?

        I've not met a single person who wants to stay in, but the polls are saying otherwise. How, where, what? Where are all these EU federalists among us, because I've never met one of them.

        VOTE OUT!
        Sorry to burst your bubble, Tuck, but we're on opposite sides again.

        Of course, I want an independent Scotland in the EU (the very idea of Holyrood being accepted as a sovereign government, rather than a troublesome regional assembly is attraction enough in itself), and to NOT be British, but you knew that anyway.

        It's only fair to point out that I generally regard the Welsh as our brothers, but things are getting a little interesting.
        Indyref2 - still, "Yes."

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        • #5
          Originally posted by the ace View Post
          and to NOT be British, but you knew that anyway.
          The British are comprised of three different groups. These are the Scots, the Welsh and the English. All live on the island of Great Britain. Please try to say English instead of British.

          Pruitt
          Pruitt, you are truly an expert! Kelt06

          Have you been struck by the jawbone of an ASS lately?

          by Khepesh "This is the logic of Pruitt"

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          • #6
            Now you Brits know how us Americans felt about 240 years ago...

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            • #7
              Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
              Now you Brits know how us Americans felt about 240 years ago...
              They still can't get their heads around how we felt (and many of us still do) in 2014. The kicker is that many of the people who told us in 2014 that a, "Yes," vote would see us expelled from the EU, now want to drag us out anyway.

              You really couldn't make this sh!t up.
              Last edited by the ace; 15 Apr 16, 02:28.
              Indyref2 - still, "Yes."

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Pruitt View Post
                The British are comprised of three different groups. These are the Scots, the Welsh and the English. All live on the island of Great Britain. Please try to say English instead of British.

                Pruitt
                Seriously ?

                I am a British citizen, born in Scotland. In an ideal world, I'd be a Scottish citizen, by no stretch of the imagination am I English. Scotland is almost certain to vote to remain in the EU.
                Indyref2 - still, "Yes."

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by the ace View Post
                  They still can't get their heads around how we felt (and many of us still do) in 2014. The kicker is that many of the people who told us in 2014 that a, "Yes," vote would see us expelled from the EU, now want to drag us out anyway.

                  You really couldn't make this sh!t up.
                  The EU want net contributors to fund the poorer nations. An independent Scotland sucking in EU cash, not spitting it out will not be attractive to the EU and it may be they would decline your hypothetical application.
                  Ne Obliviscaris, Sans Peur

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                  • #10
                    How much fun we gonna have during the next months.
                    Ho the joy...
                    Avid to see how you deal with the migrants.
                    **** up the frogs?Like now?
                    Last edited by sebfrench76; 15 Apr 16, 02:47.
                    That rug really tied the room together

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                    • #11
                      The UK government in general, and English politicians in particular, have been like a child sitting at the side of the pitch complaining about how the game is being played instead of getting togged out and joining the game so they can change things. Their self important spoiled petulance is cringe-worthy and very damaging to both the UK and the EU.
                      If the UK leaves then the Franco-German dominance of the EU will be total and the whole EU will suffer as a consequence. The UK will have no say in how things are done within its biggest trading partner.
                      The little-Englander who want out are delusional and should be ashamed of themselves. Outside the EU the UK will still be impacted in a multitude of ways and to no lesser extent by what happens in Brussels. It just wont have a voice in the decision making processes any more.

                      So, stay in but grow up, grow a spine, engage and change things instead of the childish disengagement that exists now.
                      "The thing about quotes on the internet is that you cannot confirm their
                      validity." - Abraham Lincoln.
                      "Nothing's going to change while one side it lying about the cause and the other is lying about the solution" - Me

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by E.D. Morel View Post
                        The UK government in general, and English politicians in particular, have been like a child sitting at the side of the pitch complaining about how the game is being played instead of getting togged out and joining the game so they can change things. Their self important spoiled petulance is cringe-worthy and very damaging to both the UK and the EU.
                        If the UK leaves then the Franco-German dominance of the EU will be total and the whole EU will suffer as a consequence. The UK will have no say in how things are done within its biggest trading partner.
                        The little-Englander who want out are delusional and should be ashamed of themselves. Outside the EU the UK will still be impacted in a multitude of ways and to no lesser extent by what happens in Brussels. It just wont have a voice in the decision making processes any more.

                        So, stay in but grow up, grow a spine, engage and change things instead of the childish disengagement that exists now.
                        'The little-Irishers who want out are delusional and should be ashamed of themselves' - is something that could have been said a 100 years ago

                        As for UK influence in the EU
                        "Since records began in 1996, the UK has not managed to prevent a single proposal placed in front of the EU council from becoming European law. This amounts to 72 measures that the UK opposed that have since become British law. Since 1973 the UKs voting power in the Council of Ministers has decreased from 17% to 8%, in the European Parliament it has decreased from 20% to 9.7% and in the European Commission it has decreased from 15% to 4%. The UK has about 12% of the EU's population, it provides only 5% of the EU's staff and the situation is set to get worse. More than four in 10 British officials will be enjoying their retirement by 2020 and, based on the number of applicants in recent years, most of them will not be replaced (junior roles have only a 2.4% UK entrance rate) - this matters because legislation unlike in a democracy is drafted by unelected civil servants in the Berlaymont building, the EU Parliament is merely a rubber stamp with amending rights. Over the last European Parliamentary term (2009-14),a majority of British MEPs(across UK party lines) opposed 576 motions out of a total 1,936 that were put before the European Parliament. Of those 576 motions, 485 were nonetheless approved by the rest of the Parliament despite the opposition of a majority of British MEPs. This is a failure rate of 84%. This rises to 89% in Economic & Monetary affairs & 98% loss in Budget votes. We are the 2nd worst represented in the EU parliament after France with 839,194 inhabitants per MEP (Lux 76,667 per MEP, Ireland 350,750, Italy 816,000)."

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                        • #13
                          The quote came up before.

                          To me it mostly proves you have lousy politicians who are incapable of forming a coalition where needed - probably on account of learning the trade in a bipolar political system were the majority is always ...well the majority
                          Lambert of Montaigu - Crusader.

                          Bolgios - Mercenary Game.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Gooner View Post
                            'The little-Irishers who want out are delusional and should be ashamed of themselves' - is something that could have been said a 100 years ago
                            The difference is that the EU didn't invade, subjugate and occupy Britain.

                            Originally posted by Gooner View Post
                            As for UK influence in the EU
                            "Since records began in 1996, the UK has not managed to prevent a single proposal placed in front of the EU council from becoming European law. (etc)
                            So because your politicians are crap at their job you want to leave. Why not get them to do their job properly and stay in?
                            "The thing about quotes on the internet is that you cannot confirm their
                            validity." - Abraham Lincoln.
                            "Nothing's going to change while one side it lying about the cause and the other is lying about the solution" - Me

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Escape2Victory View Post
                              The EU want net contributors to fund the poorer nations. An independent Scotland sucking in EU cash, not spitting it out will not be attractive to the EU and it may be they would decline your hypothetical application.
                              Oh yes, with the fall in oil prices, our GDP plummeted by a horrifying 0.9 % - we're an economic basket-case.

                              It's not as clear-cut as that anyway.

                              If we were independent, we'd still be EU citizens, unless the EU broke its own rules, and stripped 5 million citizens of their rights for expressing a legal, democratic opinion - extremely illegal.

                              If our resource-rich, energy-rich, fertile and peaceful country would end up, "Sucking in EU cash," after 300 years of union, where do you think the blame lies ?
                              Indyref2 - still, "Yes."

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