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    From euobserver.com article Kosovo to Serbia: Time to face reality
    Kosovo's foreign minister has said the end of supervised independence should make Serbia realise it can never divide Kosovo or get it back
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    Five EU countries - Cyprus, Greece, Romania, Slovakia and Spain - do not recognise Kosovo, with little prospect of a shift in their position.
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    Serb prosecutor Vladimir Vukcevic on Sunday said he has found a former Kosovar Albanian guerrilla willing to testify to organ crimes in the 1998-1999 war.
    "He described an operation to take out the heart of a Serb prisoner in a place near Kukes [in north Albania] ... The heart was then sold on the black market," Vukcevic said, according to AFP.
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    http://euobserver.com/enlargement/117486

    A little history from Wikipedia
    The Serbian position is that archives reveal an overwhelming Serbian demographic majority in Kosovo, which was reversed by the end of Ottoman rule, as Banac summarised: "Ottoman raids, plunder, slaving forays, as well as the general devastation caused by constant wars uprooted large numbers of Serbs even before the Great Serb Migration". This was followed by the transplantation of Albanian pastoralists from the highlands of Albania to the fertile valleys of Kosovo. However, Anscombe highlights that the most common archives – those derived from the Ottomans – do not clarify unequivocally the 'ethnic' character of the region's inhabitants, because the Ottomans classified their subjects along religious lines (millets).
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosovo#...2.80.931912.29
    The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. Thomas Jefferson.

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    Serbs are no longer the majority in Kosovo, Albanians are. It's called Facts on the Ground.

    One should not design nations along long destroyed ethnic-linguistic-relgiious lines and habitation.

    Or else we could see a Iroquois nation demanding sovereign over the area around Lake Ontario. Germans demanding Prussia back. Etc and etc.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Jonathanrex1 View Post
      Serbs are no longer the majority in Kosovo, Albanians are. It's called Facts on the Ground.
      There are parts of Kosovo where the majority are Serbs : do they deserve some form of autonomy ?
      The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. Thomas Jefferson.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Cosmos View Post
        There are parts of Kosovo where the majority are Serbs : do they deserve some form of autonomy ?
        North Kosovo should go to Serbia, while the rest of her should join with Albania.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Jonathanrex1 View Post
          North Kosovo should go to Serbia, while the rest of her should join with Albania.
          The option to send the Albanians back to their motherland looks better for me.
          There are no Nazis in Ukraine. © Idiots

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          • #6


            Period.

            /thread
            Кто там?
            Это я - Почтальон Печкин!
            Tunis is a Carthigenian city!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Emtos View Post
              The option to send the Albanians back to their motherland looks better for me.
              Just like Kazakhstan should have the option to send the Russians and Ukrainians back to their motherland.

              Ethnic Cleansing is never the answer, as it only inflames emotions and tensions.

              And sometimes it conjures American Airstrikes.
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              • #8
                Just like Kazakhstan should have the option to send the Russians and Ukrainians back to their motherland.
                It's exactly what happened with many of them.

                Ethnic Cleansing is never the answer, as it only inflames emotions and tensions.

                And sometimes it conjures American Airstrikes.
                Americans cleaned the natives and there is no problems. No natives, no problems.
                There are no Nazis in Ukraine. © Idiots

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Jonathanrex1 View Post
                  Just like Kazakhstan should have the option to send the Russians and Ukrainians back to their motherland.
                  They don't need the 'option' most came back quite voluntarily with open arms.

                  And does that mean Russia can have the option to send the millions of churki home too???
                  Кто там?
                  Это я - Почтальон Печкин!
                  Tunis is a Carthigenian city!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Jonathanrex1 View Post
                    Serbs are no longer the majority in Kosovo, Albanians are. It's called Facts on the Ground.

                    One should not design nations along long destroyed ethnic-linguistic-relgiious lines and habitation.

                    Or else we could see a Iroquois nation demanding sovereign over the area around Lake Ontario. Germans demanding Prussia back. Etc and etc.
                    That doesn't make sense. The facts on the round are that Brighton Beach is overwhelmingly full of Russian Jews. SO they can declare they are autonomous or join Israel or something? By your logic anyways.
                    Кто там?
                    Это я - Почтальон Печкин!
                    Tunis is a Carthigenian city!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Jonathanrex1 View Post
                      Serbs are no longer the majority in Kosovo, Albanians are. It's called Facts on the Ground.
                      From Wikipedia about Westminster, California http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westmin...fornia#History
                      A large number of Vietnamese refugees came to the city in the 1970s, settling largely in an area now officially named Little Saigon, and the city is unofficially known as the "capital" of overseas Vietnamese with 36,058 Vietnamese Americans and at 40.2% (2010), the highest concentration of Vietnamese-Americans of any city in America.
                      If the percentage reaches 60% will there be an autonomous Vietnamese region of California ?
                      The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. Thomas Jefferson.

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                      • #12
                        Look at the five EU countries that have not recognised Kosovo -Cyprus, Greece, Romania, Slovakia and Spain - they all have experience of influxes of other ethnicities and other similar happenings.
                        The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. Thomas Jefferson.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Stryker 19K30 View Post
                          That doesn't make sense. The facts on the round are that Brighton Beach is overwhelmingly full of Russian Jews. SO they can declare they are autonomous or join Israel or something? By your logic anyways.
                          Yes, but there is no guarantee that any other country or international organization will recognize it.

                          Think South Ossetia, Somaliland, Taiwan, Palestine, and etc.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Jonathanrex1 View Post
                            Yes, but there is no guarantee that any other country or international organization will recognize it.

                            Think South Ossetia, Somaliland, Taiwan, Palestine, and etc.
                            Kosovo is not recognized by the majority of the countries of the world.
                            There are no Nazis in Ukraine. © Idiots

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                            • #15
                              Lovely place, fresh organs for sale!

                              http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/politics...l?cid=29041604


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