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  • How Should US Deal with China Long-term?

    How should the US deal with China long-term?
    76
    Set up "triangle" with Russia - work to develop Soviet Far East
    3.95%
    3
    Express importance of Korean Unification
    7.89%
    6
    "Monetize" US debt
    3.95%
    3
    US Debt Restructuring
    7.89%
    6
    Couple Taiwan with Korea
    0.00%
    0
    Work to promote rural unrest in China
    3.95%
    3
    Work with China to reduce Chinese pollution
    9.21%
    7
    Place tarriffs on Chinese Goods
    14.47%
    11
    Take aggressive covert measures against North Korea
    5.26%
    4
    Work to promote unrest in speakers of Chinese dialects
    2.63%
    2
    Aggressively challenge Chinese Navy at Sea
    5.26%
    4
    Aggressively Challenge Chinese air space
    5.26%
    4
    Work to promote separatism in Tibet
    5.26%
    4
    Challenge Chinese in Space
    7.89%
    6
    Other
    17.11%
    13

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  • #2
    Wow. Reading your list, my jaw just dropped. A fly almost flew in!

    That's rather comprehensive... not.

    How about the option of, say, cooperation (other than simply against pollution? ironic that, considering green power investments ranking...)? Has the thought ever occurred to you? Oh, wait, is that what the "other" is for?
    "We have no white flag."

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    • #3
      a. the "Soviets" are gone.
      b. unrest in China itself would probably strengthen the hand of the military.
      Any metaphor will tear if stretched over too much reality.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by GCoyote View Post
        a. the "Soviets" are gone.
        b. unrest in China itself would probably strengthen the hand of the military.
        My bad on the Soviets!

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        • #5
          Containment.

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          • #6
            Its already too late to contain China. The best way to deal with them is to stress the importance of the current international norms and the great cost it would incur to them to replace it with a new one.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by IDonT4 View Post
              Its already too late to contain China. The best way to deal with them is to stress the importance of the current international norms and the great cost it would incur to them to replace it with a new one.
              I wonder what norms are violated by China. Do they invade sovereign countries killing their leaders, inspiring rebels and finance revolutions? Or they are building military bases around all World for power projection far from China’ shores?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Fareasterner View Post
                I wonder what norms are violated by China. Do they invade sovereign countries killing their leaders, inspiring rebels and finance revolutions? Or they are building military bases around all World for power projection far from China’ shores?
                I'm talking about keeping GAAT, WTO, etc the way it is.

                Furthermore, as China's economy and capability expands. It will have world wide interest that will require military bases.

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                • #9
                  The US do not have the resources to go head to head with China at the moment anyway, why disturb the hornet's nest...?
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                  • #10
                    I love how all your proposed "dealings" are negative subterfuge/aggression, meant to try to weaken China. China and the US are the world's two superpowers, it'd be a bad idea for the US to aggress them. That, and the US and China are friendly trading partners. Ever heard of cooperation?

                    I voted for reduction of air pollution only.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Ricthofen View Post
                      I love how all your proposed "dealings" are negative subterfuge/aggression, meant to try to weaken China. China and the US are the world's two superpowers, it'd be a bad idea for the US to aggress them. That, and the US and China are friendly trading partners. Ever heard of cooperation?

                      I voted for reduction of air pollution only.
                      I don't consider China a friendly to the US trading partner. Granted, I blame China less than I blame the elite's in the US, but nonetheless the current policy is not working, the US manufacturing base has been decimated. It has effected me personally.

                      China also doesn't seem to me to do a whole lot to bring North Korea into the community of nations.

                      Also, I assume, as I would most people, that the US and China are at all times engaged in various covert measures against each other, as are all major nations.

                      Do you think is not the case?


                      Feel free to suggest your positive suggestions.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by lakechampainer View Post
                        I don't consider China a friendly to the US trading partner. Granted, I blame China less than I blame the elite's in the US, but nonetheless the current policy is not working, the US manufacturing base has been decimated. It has effected me personally.

                        China also doesn't seem to me to do a whole lot to bring North Korea into the community of nations.

                        Also, I assume, as I would most people, that the US and China are at all times engaged in various covert measures against each other, as are all major nations.

                        Do you think is not the case?


                        Feel free to suggest your positive suggestions.
                        Of course both nations are engaged in covert measures against each other, but this is asking "How would you deal with them". Not everyone would resort to measures to destroy the others.

                        And why does it matter if they aren't trying to bring NK into the "community of nations"?

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                        • #13
                          I'd continue encouraging their transition to a capitalist society and nudge them toward being a more libertarian society. Apart from, pressuring them to float the Yuan, I'd leave them the Hell alone.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by The Doctor View Post
                            I'd continue encouraging their transition to a capitalist society and nudge them toward being a more libertarian society. Apart from, pressuring them to float the Yuan, I'd leave them the Hell alone.
                            On the contrary, I would encourage them more towards a Leftist society. The Chinese society is definitely in need of equalizing. Many of their urban residents are living well, but their rural residents are still subsistence farming. Pure socialism is impossible though with them, as though their economy is extremely powerful, no economy in the world could support itself equally distributed among 1+ billion people. However, minor Leftism, such as reforms and assistance for the poor, mixed with their economy, would work wonders.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Ricthofen View Post
                              I love how all your proposed "dealings" are negative subterfuge/aggression, meant to try to weaken China. China and the US are the world's two superpowers, it'd be a bad idea for the US to aggress them. That, and the US and China are friendly trading partners. Ever heard of cooperation?
                              Exactly.
                              "We have no white flag."

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