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  • Origins of coronavirus can be traced to Chinese lab, former MI6 chief claims

    "A former MI6 chief has said he believes the origins of the coronavirus pandemic can be traced to the virus accidentally escaping from a Chinese laboratory.

    Sir Richard Dearlove, who spent 38 years with Britain's intelligence service, told The Daily Telegraph's Planet Normal podcast, he had seen a new scientific report that suggested the virus was engineered by Chinese scientists.

    Experts widely agree that the virus originated in animals before being transmitted to humans.

    Professor David Robertson from the University of Glasgow told the House of Lords Science and Technology Committee last month that there was "really no evidence" of the virus being man-made.

    "I don't think we're clever enough to have designed this virus - it's far too unique," he said.

    "There is really no evidence for this. We can all enjoy a conspiracy theory but you need to have evidence."

    However Sir Richard said a scientific paper published this week by a Norwegian-British research team suggested key elements in the genetic sequence of the virus were "inserted" and may not have evolved naturally.

    The Daily Telegraph reported that in the study, produced by Professor Angus Dalgleish of St George's Hospital at the University of London and Norwegian virologist Birger Sorensen, the scientists claim to have found "inserted sections placed on the Sars-CoV-2 Spike surface" which could explain how the virus binds with human cells.

    In the podcast, Sir Richard suggested scientists may have been experimenting on bat coronaviruses when Covid-19 escaped."


    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...ms/ar-BB150Ocp



    Not thinking humans are clever enough to design this virus is the best defence for Covid-19 not coming from a biological warfare research lab?



  • #2
    Yes - there have been some stories about this before - I have also noticed that some people, including Dr. Fauci, have been particularly optimistic that possibility of a vaccine, even maybe one this year. I wonder if this is because he - and others - know something the rest of us don't - that maybe a "cut-and-patch" can be done in a specific way to a specific location. In other words, analysis showed that the virus gene's deviate from what would be expected as a result of corona virus mutations.

    You tube link: Dr. Fauci answering a question from Senator Romney.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WWjMUiww4I

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    Another you tube link - Dr. Fauci about three weeks ago - about three minutes in - note how quickly the virus was characterized, etc. - kudos to the researchers, obviously - but to me it kind of suggests they knew what to look for.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHt58N8M5vU

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    from statnews.com - .Dr. Fauci says a vaccine this fall is possible, as "aspirational" goal.

    https://www.statnews.com/2020/06/01/...at-warp-speed/

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    Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Diseases, has seen the photos of bars packed with mask-less patrons. He was not impressed.

    He was similarly unenthused about a decision by the biotech company Moderna to issue snippets of early data from the vaccine trial his agency has been conducting — without waiting for fuller results.

    That said, these days, Fauci sees reason for cautious optimism about Moderna’s vaccine, and others. The idea of having a vaccine by the end of the year is “aspirational, but it’s certainly doable,” he told STAT in a wide-ranging interview
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    • #3
      Link to an article from The USAF's Air University - article by Corey Pfluke - March 2, 2020: " Biohazard: A Look At China's Biological Capabilities And The Recent Coronavirus Outbreak" Link below, followed by excerpts.


      https://www.airuniversity.af.edu/Wil...coronavirus-o/

      excerpt 1




      When people think about weapons of mass destruction (WMD), they tend to think of things that go “boom.” The bigger the weapon, the bigger the boom, and the worse the impact. Past generations were taught to prepare for nuclear war. At the height of nuclear development, Bert the Turtle graced the television screens in schools across the United States, teaching children to “duck and cover” if there was an imminent attack. Nearly 70 years later, the nation still remembers Bert and his teachings. However, not all weapons need a big boom to be effective. Every day, millions of people are affected by a weapon that has the potential to do far more damage than a nuclear bomb, a weapon we cannot see, a weapon we call germs.
      According to the Encyclopedia Britannica, “biological weapons, also called germ weapons, are any number of disease-producing agents, such as bacteria, viruses, rickettsiae, fungi, toxins, or other biological agents, that may be utilized as weapons against humans, animals, or plants.”1 Throughout history, pathogens have proven to be the most destructive weapon of all. Nearly 300 million people died from smallpox in the twentieth century alone, and that was from a natural outbreak. The destructive power of an intentional attack could reach and possibly surpass that of smallpox.
      However, such a weapon’s potential for destruction acts as its own deterrent to use. Biological weapons are unique in that an attempt to infect an enemy could lead to a pandemic of one’s own troops and people. Diseases have no discrimination techniques, so a small intentional release could have large unintentional side effects. Or worse, a smallunintentional release could have large unintentional consequences. For example, it was speculated that the coronavirus outbreak that begin in China in 2019 could have been an unintentional consequence of alleged bioweapon research in Wuhan. This article will look into the validity of such claims, the current coronavirus situation, China’s current alleged biowarfare capabilities, and the future of biowarfare.
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      excerpt 2

      A 2005 US Department of State compliance report noted that “China maintains some elements of an offensive [biological weapon] capability in violation of its BTWC obligations. Despite China’s declarations to the contrary, indications suggest that China maintained an offensive [biological weapon] program before acceding to the Convention in 1984.”13 Since signing the BTWC, China has been a stringent supporter of the treaty, desiring to improve both the verification mechanism of the treaty as well as strengthen export controls to prevent the proliferation of biological materials. However, according to a US intelligence official, China was the biggest export violator of all, as it had sold dual-use equipment and vaccines with both civilian medical applications and biological weapons applications. These exports likely turned into the beginnings of the Iranian biological weapons program. Then in 2006, China updated its export control list to restrict 14 additional biological agents from being exported from the mainland.14 Despite these actions, it is still believed that China has helped Iran and other Middle Eastern nations build their biological weapons programs.
      Reports from the United States in 2010, 2012, and 2014 all state essentially the same thing, that China likely possesses a biological weapons program, but the extent of that program remains unknown to the public.15 According to the Nuclear Threat Initiative, it is clear that “China possesses the required technology and resources to mass-produce traditional [biological weapon] agents as well as expertise in aerobiology.”16 Today, it is likely that China’s current dual-use infrastructure acts as the basis for its offensive biological capability.
      The 2005 US Department of State report also identifies two facilities that have links to an offensive biological weapons program: the Chinese Ministry of Defense’s Academy of Military Medical Sciences (AMMS) Institute of Microbiology and Epidemiology (IME) in Beijing, and the Lanzhou Institute of Biological Produces (LIBP).17 China responds that the former is a biodefense-focused facility and the latter is a vaccine production facility. In addition to these two central laboratories, it is estimated that there are at least 50 other laboratories and hospitals being used as biological weapons research facilities.

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      In November 2018, Chinese scientist He Jiankui of the Southern University of Science and Technology in Shenzhen China announced that he used the gene-editing technique CRISPR-Cas9 to create genetically modified human babies.23 Using embryos created from their parents’ eggs and sperm, He performed what he calls gene surgery to modify their genetics to better protect them from human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) because the babies’ father is HIV positive. More specifically, He “deleted a region of a receptor on the surface of white blood cells known as CCR5 [using] CRISPR-Cas9.”24 In his statement, he claims to have used this same technique to edit seven embryos, but this was the first to result in a successful pregnancy and birth.25 Previously, CRISPR-Cas9 had never been used in altering the genome of embryos.
      CRISPR-Cas9 is “a unique technology that enables geneticist and medical researchers to edit parts of the genome by removing, adding, or altering sections of DNA sequence.”26 The CRISPR acronym refers to “clustered regularly interspaced short palindromic repeats” that are repetitions of the base sequences of DNA, while Cas-9 refers to a specific protein that can act like scissors to cut parts of DNA, allowing it to be rearranged.27 Laboratories all around the world are researching the possibility of using CRISPR-Cas9 to cure diseases and prevent other diseases in offspring, for example HIV. China investigated He’s claims and found them to be accurate. In 2019, the Chinese government investigated He for ethics violations and possible law violations. He has since been fined 3 million yuan (430,000 USD) and will spend the next three years in jail.28 His breakthrough, if truly successful, would be monumental for the scientific community, but it could also mean the start of a new threat era.

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      edit: link to Wikipedia article on CRISPR


      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CRISPR
      Last edited by lakechampainer; 04 Jun 20, 16:47.

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      • #4
        Doesn't matter because we will never do anything about it.
        Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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