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  • Japan protests China memorial to Korean assassin as ties fray

    (Reuters) - Japan on Monday protested against a Chinese memorial to a Korean who assassinated a Japanese official over a century ago, branding him a terrorist and saying the move did not help repair deteriorating ties.

    The memorial honours Ahn Jung-geun, who in 1909 killed Hirobumi Ito, a former top Japanese official in Korea, which at that time was occupied by Japan.

    Ito was killed in the northeastern Chinese city of Harbin, the site of the memorial, and Ahn was convicted and executed in 1910.

    Japanese chief cabinet secretary Yoshihide Suga told a news conference on Monday that Japan would protest the move through diplomatic channels.

    "The coordinated move by China and South Korea based on a one-sided view (of history) is not conducive to building peace and stability" in East Asia, Suga said.
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    WHO WAS DOING THE TERRORIZING IN KOREA and MANCHUKUO in 1910?????? It certainly wasn't the Chinese or Korean!!!!!

    SO ONLY ABE CAN VISIT the WAR SHRINE and disregard Chinese and Korean feelings???
    Nice is heavy on my mind.
    I pray and wish the best for France.

  • #2
    The idea of Japan accusing someone else of adjusting history is rather funny.

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    • #3
      Yep. I think this maybe a good thing that China and South Korea find a common ground. I still have a dislike of the total disregard of history that Japan has.

      There is a interesting book called Flyboys that looks into the Japanese pov. and its goals as a empire.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flyboys...ory_of_Courage

      Now I just hope that China pays attention and doesn't go for a empire itself. Sadly it seems like its willing to war to gain more territory...

      That always ends poorly...
      Credo quia absurdum.


      Quantum mechanics describes nature as absurd from the point of view of common sense. And yet it fully agrees with experiment. So I hope you can accept nature as She is - absurd! - Richard Feynman

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
        The idea of Japan accusing someone else of adjusting history is rather funny.
        Japan vs PRC is pot-calling-kettle-black regardless of which one is talking.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by ThoseDeafMutes View Post
          Japan vs PRC is pot-calling-kettle-black regardless of which one is talking.
          Not in WW2 issues. Japan's behavior in China was inexcusable.

          And since technically the PRC is a post-war state, there's no comparison.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
            Not in WW2 issues. Japan's behavior in China was inexcusable.

            And since technically the PRC is a post-war state, there's no comparison.
            I'm not defending the atrocities committed. I'm talking about selectively ignoring or editing history. The PRC is quite bad, possibly worse than Japan on that front.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by ThoseDeafMutes View Post
              I'm not defending the atrocities committed. I'm talking about selectively ignoring or editing history. The PRC is quite bad, possibly worse than Japan on that front.
              I'm gonna need some proof of that. You have any verifiable examples?

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              • #8
                Seems like these countries are engaged in a huge pi$$ing match that has no end. Time is better spent looking for workarounds for this issues so they can get back to business. Make money, TCOB.

                Instead it's about annoying each other.

                "Take the risk of thinking for yourself, much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way." - Christopher Hitchens

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                • #9
                  Let me guess, the N'orks are trying to pretend this isn't happening, aren't they?
                  "Why is the Rum gone?"

                  -Captain Jack

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
                    I'm gonna need some proof of that. You have any verifiable examples?
                    http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english...ent_334845.htm

                    "The PC game, "Hearts of Iron", was accused of distorting historical facts in describing the Fascist regimes of Japan, Germany and Italy during World War II.

                    Moreover, "Manchuria", "West Xinjiang", and "Tibet" appeared as independent sovereign countries in the maps of the game. In addition, it even included China's Taiwan province as the territory of Japan at the beginning of the game.

                    "All these severely distort historical facts and violate China's gaming and Internet service regulations," the MOC said. "The game should be immediately prohibited." "
                    The game (accurately) depicts China as being under the de facto control of not only the Nationalist and Communist governments, but also several warlords. It also depicts Tibet as having autonomy in this time period, which it did. Taiwan as part of Japan... which it was.

                    You're probably aware of the rampant censorship that goes on in PRC, but in case you're not, many foreign films must have sections removed before they are permitted to be screened. One particularly funny example is Casino Royale being required to drop mentions of the Cold War for some stupid reason. Fairly recent textbook revisions for school kids dropped the mention of several wars and significant reduce discussion on socialism and old party economic ideology to about one chapter. I guess this makes sense since they're communists in name only these days.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by ThoseDeafMutes View Post
                      http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english...ent_334845.htm



                      The game (accurately) depicts China as being under the de facto control of not only the Nationalist and Communist governments, but also several warlords. It also depicts Tibet as having autonomy in this time period, which it did. Taiwan as part of Japan... which it was.

                      You're probably aware of the rampant censorship that goes on in PRC, but in case you're not, many foreign films must have sections removed before they are permitted to be screened. One particularly funny example is Casino Royale being required to drop mentions of the Cold War for some stupid reason. Fairly recent textbook revisions for school kids dropped the mention of several wars and significant reduce discussion on socialism and old party economic ideology to about one chapter. I guess this makes sense since they're communists in name only these days.
                      I hate to getting into a jousting match, but you seemed to only criticize Chinese and picking the fact that since PRC is communist, their claim should be discounted.

                      PC Game and foreign film are the only thing that you can come up with????

                      You claim the censorship of PRC is because they are communist??? AM I correct???

                      Two of the biggest democracies in the World also do that too!!! Japan and US.

                      The movie Pearl Harbour and Flags of our Father was modified for Japan. japanese did not wanted Japanese to be dipicted as "too violent?" Some of the Japanese Killing scenes had to be deleted. If you know anything about Japanese Cinema, some of the most gruesome and violent movies ever made are from Japan.

                      One of the best made about Nanking Massacre by a German Film maker, not played in Japan and America. John Rabe (Good Nazis of Nanking) banned in Japan, and Jewish American dominanted Hollywood would not allow the words good and Nazis go together. The idea a Nazis in Nanking actually did something good is totally against their believes.
                      Nice is heavy on my mind.
                      I pray and wish the best for France.

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                      • #12
                        China has more suppression than any of the western countries. Look at our membership here. Every time a Chinese member shows the slightest protest against the PRC they vanish. I can say safely obummer sucks, and I dislike his policies... Try being a citizen of China and doing that and you'll end up in a reeducation camp. If your lucky... (Not criticizing obummer but the leadership of China...)
                        Credo quia absurdum.


                        Quantum mechanics describes nature as absurd from the point of view of common sense. And yet it fully agrees with experiment. So I hope you can accept nature as She is - absurd! - Richard Feynman

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Bwaha View Post
                          China has more suppression than any of the western countries. Look at our membership here. Every time a Chinese member shows the slightest protest against the PRC they vanish. I can say safely obummer sucks, and I dislike his policies... Try being a citizen of China and doing that and you'll end up in a reeducation camp. If your lucky... (Not criticizing obummer but the leadership of China...)
                          The same for Vietnam ... but we never hear anything at all from anyone in Japan, ever.
                          "Why is the Rum gone?"

                          -Captain Jack

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by MSGT MSC USAR View Post
                            I hate to getting into a jousting match, but you seemed to only criticize Chinese and picking the fact that since PRC is communist, their claim should be discounted.
                            Why would I point out something a country other than China did if somebody asked me for an example of China doing something? I am not discounting any claims, I was originally making a joke about China and Japan both "adjusting history". I'm certainly not opposed to them on the grounds that they are communists (I would sooner vote for a communist party than a republican one ) China has an official history that is at odds with reality. The videogame example was an expression of this, with an official source explaining why the game was banned (because it conflicts with their official history, even though what it shows is true). I was not bringing that up because I thought that banning one game was a moral crime on par with the rape of Nanjing. Nor was I saying that Japan is some kind of perfect utopian society free of wrongdoing. My original statement after all was:

                            "Japan vs PRC is pot-calling-kettle-black regardless of which one is talking."

                            That is, my original point was that they are both bad on this front!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Bwaha View Post
                              China has more suppression than any of the western countries. Look at our membership here. Every time a Chinese member shows the slightest protest against the PRC they vanish. I can say safely obummer sucks, and I dislike his policies... Try being a citizen of China and doing that and you'll end up in a reeducation camp. If your lucky... (Not criticizing obummer but the leadership of China...)
                              oh, wait, you’re serious...
                              "We have no white flag."

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