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  • Originally posted by GMan88 View Post
    Doesn't the US have hospital ships they can use?
    They are set up to triage victims, operate on them, and care for them until they can be evacuated to a general hospital, either in-theater or in the US. They are not set up for dealing with unusual diseases like Ebola.

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    • Originally posted by redcoat View Post
      Ebola may have now killed over 5,000 people but it's still little league compared to some old favourites, like Measles.
      This so-called childhood illness killed over 145,000 last year.
      http://www.theguardian.com/society/s...alled-says-who
      But not in America.

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      • Originally posted by GMan88 View Post
        Doesn't the US have hospital ships they can use?
        Hospital ships COULD be set up for Ebola ---- why not? It's a good idea.

        That Sierra Leone citizen they medevaced to Nebraska died.

        I'm glad they didn't bring him to Maryland, where he apparently has a wife and children he rarely saw, spending his time mostly in Sierra Leone. It would have caused a hoopla here, I can tell you.

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        • Who is going to be treated - a handful of people on a giant ship? Or the general population of West Africa? If a handful of people, a huge waste of resources. If the general population of West Africa, who decides who gets treated? And where do the Ebola specialists come from?

          The ships anyway are not built for bio-containment.

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USNS_Mercy_%28T-AH-19%29

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USNS_Comfort_%28T-AH-20%29

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          • Originally posted by lakechampainer View Post
            Who is going to be treated - a handful of people on a giant ship? Or the general population of West Africa? If a handful of people, a huge waste of resources. If the general population of West Africa, who decides who gets treated? And where do the Ebola specialists come from?

            The ships anyway are not built for bio-containment.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USNS_Mercy_%28T-AH-19%29

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USNS_Comfort_%28T-AH-20%29

            Sure the ships are built for bio-containment!!!

            Ships are the ultimate bio-containment units.



            That's why they quarantined ships so firmly in the old days, when people had good sense. If the Genoese ships fleeing Crimea hadn't docked at Messina in October 1347, the plague would never have come to Europe. The rats and the few sailors left got off ----- whoops. They did force the ships out to sea days later, but too late. Those ships, by now with very few and dying crew, all fetched up on the Mediterranean coast of Italy and France, and were scavenged, and plague spread northward from each ship.

            Ships spread plague to England by landing at the port cities (at least two) in June 1348.

            Ships never spread plagues if kept out at sea, no contact between boats: they can't. They could certainly contain Ebola! Just quarantine them 42 days after the last Ebola patient is gone, and that's that.



            My understanding from reading is that the U.S. mission is to provide some safe places for healthcare workers to be treated when ill, these being sometimes non-Africans, and always the most vulnerable to Ebola. As nurses strike today in California and have struck and fled in Liberia, we see that healthcare people are well aware they are in the greatest danger of anybody.

            Ships would work: I like it. Another useful characteristics of hospital ships is security: bands of machete-waving locals can't attack them, something that has been a continual problem in this epidemic.

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            • How Ebola Roared Back

              A good bit of journalism chronicling the cultural, political, bureaucratic, and other factors that fed into the longest running ebola outbreak to date.

              ... well-intentioned veterans of past Ebola campaigns had tragically underestimated this outbreak, overlooking clues that now seem apparent. Viewing the West Africa epidemic through the prism of nearly two dozen previous outbreaks across the continent, they failed to appreciate that the 2014 version would be unique in catastrophic ways.
              http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/30/he...ared-back.html
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              • A positive message to kick off 2015:

                After less then a dozen cases in the country in 2014,
                Mali has started the year Ebola free
                BoRG

                You may not be interested in War, but War is interested in You - Leon Trotski, June 1919.

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                • Before November 4 last year Ebola was going to destroy us all. Wild guestimates were posted, accusations made, speculation ran wild & people risking their lives to stop this were defamed by people of low character safe at home on the internet. By late January there were apparently going to be hundreds of thousands of cases.

                  So, where are we?

                  The largest outbreak of Ebola in human history has infected 21,724 people and killed 8,641 - largely in just three countries, Sierra Leone, Liberia and Guinea.

                  All are now showing falls in weekly cases:

                  Cases in Liberia stand at eight-per-week down from a peak of 509
                  Cases in Guinea stand at 20 per week down from a peak of 292
                  Cases in Sierra Leone stand at 117-per-week down from a peak of 748
                  There are now some days in Liberia where no cases are reported at all.
                  http://www.bbc.com/news/health-30932578

                  OH MY GODSES!!!!! we're all gonna di....oh, wait.

                  Looks like the epidemic has been contained, the rate of infection is falling and the world will not come to an end by easter. Not only did we not hit the 1.4 million 'end of the world' scare figure, we haven't even hit 5% of the low 'end of the world' scare figure. Who woulda thunk it.

                  This is wonderful news for those African nations who have suffered the most. A huge congratulations to all those who risked their lives to stop this. An especial pat on the back for the thousands of Africans who did most of the hard work & will be forgotten when this becomes a 'white people turned up & saved the world' story. Most of them worked under unimaginable conditions. In an ideal world this would be treated as a warning and would result in an investment in health infrastructure in vulnerable parts of Africa. Sadly I suspect a bunch more white folks in white nations would have to have died for that to happen. Oh well, a win is still a win.
                  Human beings are the only creatures on Earth that claim a god and the only living thing that behaves like it hasn't got one - Hunter S. Thompson

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                  • Ebola Epidemic Takes a Toll on Sierra Leone’s Surgeons

                    Twenty percent of the nation’s surgical practitioners have been killed by Ebola
                    January 22, 2015 |By Seema Yasmin and Chethan Sathya

                    Although the rate of new Ebola infections in Sierra Leone, along with neighboring countries Guinea and Liberia, is finally falling, more than 800 health care personnel have been infected with Ebola in the hot zone and nearly 500 have died since the epidemic began, according to a January report by the World Health Organization. And the toll, along with the continuing deaths of health care workers will have devastating implications for the long-term health of these nations.
                    more - http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...ne-s-surgeons/
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