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    February 15, 1944. Frustrated by their inability to break through the German positions near the town of Monte Cassino, Allied officers became fixated on the great abbey overlooking the town. In their view it was the abbey—and its presumed use as a German artillery observation point—that prevented the breach of the 'Gustav Line'.On February 11, 1944, the acting commander of 4th Indian Division, Brigadier Harry Dimoline, requested the bombing of the abbey of Monte Cassino.The bombing mission in the morning of February 15, 1944 involved 142 B-17 Flying Fortresses together with 47 B-25 Mitchell and 40 B-26 Marauder medium bombers. In all they dropped 1,150 tons of high explosives and incendiary bombs on the abbey, reducing the entire top of Monte Cassino to a smoking mass of rubble. Between bomb runs, the II Corps artillery pounded the mountain.Many Allied soldiers and war correspondents cheered as they observed the spectacle.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Monte_Cassino



    February 15, 1944. Pope Pius XII was silent after the bombing; however, his secretary of state, Cardinal Maglione, bluntly stated to the senior U.S. diplomat to the Vatican, Harold Tittmann, that the bombing was "a colossal blunder . . . a piece of a gross stupidity." What is certain from every investigation that followed since the event, is the fact that the only people killed in the monastery by the bombing were Italian civilians seeking refuge in the abbey. There is no evidence that the bombs dropped on the Monte Cassino monastery that day killed German troops. However, given the imprecision of bombing in those days bombs did fall elsewhere and killed German and Allied troops alike. The U.S. government's official position on the bombing of Monte Cassino underwent remarkable changes over a quarter century. The certainty of "irrefutable evidence" of German use of the abbey was removed from the record in 1961 by the Office of the Chief of Military History. A congressional inquiry to the same office in the 20th anniversary year of the bombing produced the statement: "It appears that no German troops, except a small military police detachment, were actually inside the abbey" before the bombing. The final correction to the U.S. Army's official record was made in 1969 and concluded that "the abbey was actually unoccupied by German troops."
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Monte_Cassino



    Deutsche Wochenschau No. 703. February 23, 1944.
    Translation: On the southern Italian front. The activities of the Anglo-American air force have not been able to prevent supplies from getting through. German troops are bringing supplies in for the battle.Even in the greatest difficulties provisions are brought to the troops in the mountains.The supply mule arrives. Anglo-American bombers attack.The bombs fall in the valley.The Abbey of Monte Cassino, which has been here fro hundreds of years. And now after the destruction by the Anglo-American air force.After the air bombardment, this symbol of European culture was subject to heavy artillery fire and reduced to ruins. This what is left. The Abbot of Monte Cassino on his way to Rome.He thanks the German liaison officer.A further of Anglo-American criminal offenses against culture is Casto Gandalfo.Here in the summer residence of the Pope, as with Monte Cassino, the German command had established a safe area for over 15,000 Italian refugees, including women and children. Destruction and mass fatalities in the village of Castel Gandolfi has been the result of the Anglo-American bombing raids.



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    Awesome mate!
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    • #3
      A horrible event and inexcusable. But great video all the same.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Torien View Post
        A horrible event and inexcusable. But great video all the same.
        The initial loss of life, followed by the fact the ruins were a great defensive obstacle added to the tally .
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        • #5
          Thanks for offer this histroy. It's very important for me. italian translation

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          • #6
            Originally posted by withfinsh View Post
            Thanks for offer this histroy. It's very important for me. italian translation
            Welcome to the forums, and Skoblin does some of the very best threads right here .
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Torien View Post
              A horrible event and inexcusable. But great video all the same.
              Almost 1,500 years of Benedictine abbey, in fact the original Benedictine abbey founded by St Benedict himself, is destroyed in a matter of minutes. The Huns, I mean Attila's bunch not the Germans, could not have done better, and God knows they were a destructive lot. All that can be said about the destruction of Monte Cassino is this: it seemed like a good idea at the time.

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              • #8
                May 18: In 1944, during World War II, Allied forces finally occupied Monte Cassino in Italy after a four-month struggle that claimed some 20,000 lives.
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                • #9
                  Hell, I thought they did a great job. Sorry for the loss of the building and innocent lives but I love the fact, as a former soldier, that the commander was given permission to take out a building (did not matter it was old, religious or other) he deemed was a threat to his troops.

                  Too many times today, we are not granted such permission and the enemy holds up in there and then disappears, perhaps through tunnels or some other means.
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