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  • Work_permit
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    Could someone post a curriculum which shows what is taught as US history today?

    For example, New Visions for Public Schools, which supports the recruitment and hiring of teachers for 69 district public schools and eight Charter High Schools across New York City has the following US history curriculum on their website. The curriculum looks like a "classic" US history curriculum.

    On the other hand, a practice exam for the US AP history test seems a bit more "slanted" in its questions and subject matter.

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  • Poor Old Spike
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    Originally posted by MarkV View Post
    ...Questioning nothing,accepting everything is not education it is merely cementing ignorance and often prejudice..
    Right, kids are being brainwashed into thinking all sorts of nonsense nowadays by pol-correct lefty teachers and society, so it's good that they should question everything..

    "Accept nothing unless it agrees with your own commonsense"- Buddha

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  • OpanaPointer
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    Well, I've been working for 25 years to get a decent collection of documents on WWII together. And the American State Papers and FRUS add 63,000 pages to that.

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  • the ace
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    I wonder what the motivation is.

    In the UK, we were generally taught the History of Britain (with a nod to the Ancient world) but a lot was skimmed over due to the sheer scale of the subject.

    It's only since devolution that the 100 years plus of Scottish History has been permitted in Scottish Schools (at University in the early '90s, I met a final year History MA who asked about Robert III, "Any relation to the Bruce ?" - for the record, his great-grandson, and one of the worst things ever to happen to the Crown), again, due to time considerations (honest).

    Since the USA has only existed for around 250 years, why would anyone need to edit it ?

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  • Poor Old Spike
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    I left school 50 years ago with just average grades, yet it's never held me back in the slightest because I've always found that employers (the enlightened ones anyway), always attach more importance to a job applicants character than anything else.
    For example I once applied for a job as a temporary hotel porter, but was so bloody good at the interview (chatty, jokey, open, honest, friendly and brimming with self-confidence) that the two co-owners offered me the job of general manager on the spot!
    (Sadly I couldn't take it as I was moving to Plymouth shortly, otherwise I'd have ended up as a Basil Fawlty)..

    Billionnaire Lord Alan Sugar once rightly told his apprentice candidates on TV-
    "It's personality that opens doors, and character that keeps them open"..

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  • dmf01
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    Originally posted by MarkV View Post
    Yes and as one who also went to school then but has now an MA in history recently acquired I can say what a lot of rubbish, myth and sheer ignorance we were taught - sometimes by teachers who were teaching from the book with no expertise themselves.Questioning nothing,accepting everything is not education it is merely cementing ignorance and often prejudice. Probably works for NK though.
    My history teacher at school tried her best - the way you've just depicted - to get me rid of my interest in history. Luckily she didn't succeed.

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  • OpanaPointer
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    Originally posted by MarkV View Post
    Yes and as one who also went to school then but has now an MA in history recently acquired I can say what a lot of rubbish, myth and sheer ignorance we were taught - sometimes by teachers who were teaching from the book with no expertise themselves.Questioning nothing,accepting everything is not education it is merely cementing ignorance and often prejudice. Probably works for NK though.
    I was correcting our History teacher in high school. I had more interest in the subject than he did.

    (For reference, I was Class of '69.)

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  • MarkV
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    Originally posted by Poor Old Spike View Post
    Yeah I thank God I went to school in the 1950's/60's when kids were taught that everything was a clear-cut black and white issue with no grey areas.
    But sadly, later generations are being brainwashed by the lefty establishment that NOTHING is clear-cut, and that we must carefully look at things from every possible angle blah blah, and as a result many kids grow up unsure of themselves.
    The good news is that everybody is getting fed up of that lefty claptrap and showed it by voting the great straight-talking Donald Trump into the White House, and here in Britain we voted to cut loose from the wretched lefty EU..
    Yes and as one who also went to school then but has now an MA in history recently acquired I can say what a lot of rubbish, myth and sheer ignorance we were taught - sometimes by teachers who were teaching from the book with no expertise themselves.Questioning nothing,accepting everything is not education it is merely cementing ignorance and often prejudice. Probably works for NK though.

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  • Half Pint John
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    Originally posted by Poor Old Spike View Post
    Yeah I thank God I went to school in the 1950's/60's when kids were taught that everything was a clear-cut black and white issue with no grey areas.
    But sadly, later generations are being brainwashed by the lefty establishment that NOTHING is clear-cut, and that we must carefully look at things from every possible angle blah blah, and as a result many kids grow up unsure of themselves.
    The good news is that everybody is getting fed up of that lefty claptrap and showed it by voting the great straight-talking Donald Trump into the White House, and here in Britain we voted to cut loose from the wretched lefty EU..
    https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/con...ies-education/

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  • Biscuit
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    Originally posted by LtCol View Post
    I taught College Level History for fifteen years. My college had the second highest percent of Native American and Afro-American students enrolled in the state. Classes in though areas were offered every semester and never made. And they only needed ten students enrolled to make.
    At the beginning of every semester I asked my students how many hated history in high school and almost always one third to one half raised their hands...I then asked what sport their teacher coached? History at the secondary school level is the most often taught by teachers without a degree in history. AT my university to get a teaching degree in history a student only need to maintain a 2.0 grade point average!!! And had to take only 18 hours of history courses. To get a history degree (non-teaching) a student had to maintain a 3.5 gpa. One problem I see is that college advisors are not aware of the jobs available in history and tries to lead students into the teaching field, ONLY, were you have to coach to make a living.

    That's somewhat true in the South, where football is king. That's not the case out West. I just started at a new school and the only coaches I've met so far teach either math or computer technology. You've also overlooked the fact that those teachers had to pass an exam and demonstrate professional knowledge in their teaching fields.

    I don't have a degree in history, and my kids were able to learn. I've majored (to include earning a degree) in kinesiology, chemistry, special education, and ELD. If you're properly motivated, willing to work, and invested in kids, you can teach almost any high school level course. I've taught courses in all four core areas.

    Overall though, your ideas about secondary history teachers are flawed and offensive. The same could be said for the OP. It was so flawed, it could almost be described as fantasy.

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  • Poor Old Spike
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    Originally posted by BrianBoru2485 View Post
    In American school they...teach about the Indian American genocide...
    Yes, whenever lefty mushbrains in discussion forums start spouting that rubbish, I soon shut them up by telling them that if they feel sorry for the Indians, they can always stop squatting on their land and give it back to them..

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  • OpanaPointer
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    I was talking to the mother of a 10 yo yesterday. She says the kid is fascinated with WWII, so I gave her the appropriate URL.

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  • Poor Old Spike
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    Originally posted by 101combatvet View Post
    Yup, they don't teach history in the true sense, they teach Social Studies. However, it touches on it just not in any detail.
    Yeah I thank God I went to school in the 1950's/60's when kids were taught that everything was a clear-cut black and white issue with no grey areas.
    But sadly, later generations are being brainwashed by the lefty establishment that NOTHING is clear-cut, and that we must carefully look at things from every possible angle blah blah, and as a result many kids grow up unsure of themselves.
    The good news is that everybody is getting fed up of that lefty claptrap and showed it by voting the great straight-talking Donald Trump into the White House, and here in Britain we voted to cut loose from the wretched lefty EU..

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  • 101combatvet
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    Yup, they don't teach history in the true sense, they teach Social Studies. However, it touches on it just not in any detail.

    Originally posted by BrianBoru2485 View Post
    In American school, they don't teach about the American Revolution, Civil War, WW1/2, Vietnam, Lewis &Clark, the early American settlers, but teach about Selma( a race issue), about the Indian American genocide, all stuff by liberals to pacify kids to grow up instead of pride of Iwo Jima, shame of slavery, when 1.5% of people were slave owners, and most even in south hated slavery, wish it went away! Hate any bigotry most of us immigrants were Irish, dying from the famine, that the Brits were responsible for, but not wish to get into that. A debate I read 30 books on and waiting, but, then was then, and we are pals now. Just feel we are really going downhill, all the movies are fantasy crap comic book crap. Any hero stuff has to be politically correct. Hollywood is 100% liberal biased, so even possible just movies, are bull crap,. Few movies are about people who are about real stories!! How about what happened in Afghanistan w/ guys there? How about real hero stories, how about a movie going back about Ray Davis in WW2 & the Chosin Campaign, impossible that they care. How about the story of the USS Houston I just read, ( Ship of Ghosts- USS Houston, by James D. Hornfischer 940.5425 in the Library of Congess Code, Brian

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  • 101combatvet
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    Charlton Heston? He's dead, did you just come out of the Ice Age?

    Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
    100% crock of BS.

    Eastwood
    Heston
    Stallone
    Duvall
    Selleck
    Willis
    Bullock
    Gibson
    Baldwin
    King

    and, and, and...

    All GOP

    Do a fact check before posting outrageous comments.

    http://www.zimbio.com/Famous+Republicans/articles

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