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The guys you never see in the war movies or documentaries

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  • The guys you never see in the war movies or documentaries

    I've been watching a stash of Battle Line docus and I was thinking (I ponder this ponder periodically), you never ever actually see much in the way of indirect or direct acknowledgment of the guys that clearly were there, the guys with a camera.

    You see Germans Japanese on the attack, clearly someone filmed it.
    You see Marines going ashore or Commandos assaulting, never any sign of who filmed it.

    Eeeeeevybody has combat footage and yet, you never see who filmed it.

    Sometimes I almost wonder, is this footage real? How on earth did they get that on film? There juuuust seems no real acknowledgment of the schmuck with the camera.

    Only film I can think of that came right out and made a point of illustrating the effort needed, was 84 Charlie MoPic.

    They have to be one of the more unsung heroes out there.
    After all, you can't film the assault on Tarawa, if you didn't go in too.
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  • #2
    There were a lot of combat cameramen in both theaters during WWII using still and movie. Some of the footage shot in the Pacific was not released until recently due to adverse comments on some of it during the war.
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    • #3
      WWII in HD features Robert Sherrod and Richard Tregaskis.But I totally agree.The combat reporters that are right there in the trenches are doing a job just as important as those doing the fighting.These deeds must be recorded for history's sake.




      • #4
        You can thank John Ford, for the part he played in getting the film. He was the right man at the right time. There is a 7-part series well worth reading. It will shine some light about "who filmed it".
        If you were not aware, John Ford was on Midway island during the epic Air-Sea battles. Raw footage, "The Battle of Midway", (part2), included James Roosevelt, the president's son.

        Decide for yourself if this series is worth your time.

        For Conservative Movie Lovers: John Ford, John Wayne, and ‘They Were Expendable’ Part 1

        The rest of Tinseltown, and the skeptical Navy brass, began jokingly referring to this motley crew as “John Ford’s Navy.” And yet, by the time he was through, over a hundred of his Hollywood trainees had joined the active service or reserves, ready for a war they knew was coming.

        After Pearl Harbor, with the Navy in shock and disarray, Ford finally found his long-sought benefactor. William “Wild Bill” Donovan was in the process of setting up the OSS — the Office of Strategic Services, the precursor to today’s CIA — and Ford’s moxie, skills, and penchant for skirting the bureaucracy was just what he was looking for. Soon the director had brought his Hollywood gang under the official auspices of the OSS as “The Field Photographic Branch,” and it wasn’t long before they were filming reconnaissance, troop movements, and full-on battles all over the world.

        At forty-seven years of age, after three decades of trying, John Ford was finally a soldier.

        Ford served without pay, traveling across the globe and dodging enemy bombers and U-Boats to fulfill his duties as head of Field Photo. Iceland… Panama… North Africa… West Africa… Cuba… Australia… Ceylon… China… India…. Burma…. Saudi Arabia… Brazil… France. Ford filmed potential base locations, assessed the security of existing sites, captured now-historic battles on film, often in color, and coordinated the movements and missions of his men, thirteen of whom were killed in action. For these efforts, he was promoted to Captain on April 3, 1944. In later years he would state that — although he was the recipient of many of the highest awards in the film industry, including several Oscars — he was most proud of having earned his Small Arms Expert’s medal in the Navy.
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        • #5
          Crazy buggers the whole lot of them. I mean it is one thing to go into an attack with a weapon knowing you could at least shoot back but to do it with a camera...
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          • #6
            Alan Whicker of Whickers World fame (maybe only famous here, I don't know) was involved in all that jazz during WWII, mostly in Sicily and Italy I believe.


            • #7
              Talking about the past conflicts:
              I'm astonished that a man would carry a heavy oared camera during a battle, when you have men trying to kill you.

              The combat reporters that are right there in the trenches are doing a job just as important as those doing the fighting.
              You could say it was more dangours job!


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