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  • #91
    Wrong Direction

    Originally posted by Ironwolf View Post
    Hmmm,,,, I'm reading a lot just plain 'bashing' and not so much on details.
    Lets hear what is wrong and back it up with what is correct.
    One of my favorite movie goofs was in the Green Beret.
    At the end of the movie the sun sank slowly in to the EAST!
    Vietnam has only one coast and it faces East. In the final scene they faced the setting sun on the beach and watched it go down.
    One of my favorite bad history movies is Krakatoa, East of Java.

    Krakatoa was actually WEST of Java. But it's fun to watch with a large tub of popcorn.


    BraxtonB
    If at first you don't secede, try, try again.

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    • #92
      Alamo

      Originally posted by Pruitt View Post
      I was watching the current version of "the Alamo" today as I was getting ready for work. I saw "Sam Houston" get up and say he would raise an Army of Texans and go relieve the Alamo, but the duty of everybody present was to get a government together that would be recognized by all the world. Sam Houston had already sent word to the Alamo and Goliad to blow the missions up and fall back to where could use them to form an army. When Sam first heard that Santa Ana was in Bexar he claimed it was a lie and proceeded to get drunk for several days on eggnog. He had already resigned his commission as general of the Texas Regulars.

      Lots of fiction in this movie, although I believe Travis, Crockett and Bowie were played well. Although Bowie was over 6 foot tall and blond and blue eyed the actor portraying him made me believe he was a "killing gentleman" and Bowie was! Travis was an ass and Crockett was pretty well as played. I wish they had shown as well it was in Crockett's character to surrender and be executed with the other Texans that tried to jump the walls and flee.

      Pruitt
      There is still much debate over whether Houston ordered the Alamo blown up. He said in a letter to Governor Smith that he would order the works destroyed if the governor thought it was a wise move. Many of Houston's post-war accounts were designed to cover his ass. When Houston should have been assembling an army he was off drinking with the Cherokee, for example.
      The portrayal of Travis was also wrong. He was not uncertain about anything. He was brash, headstrong and almost started the revolution single-handedly. If someone had disobeyed a direct order as portrayed in the 2004 flick Travis probably would have shot him. Travis is usually portrayed wrong in the movies, the worst being in Wayne's 1960 Alamo.
      The Crockett surrender story is still up in the air. The so-called de la Pena diary or journal shows too many signs of forgery. Of course a number of contemporary historians have built their reputations using it.
      I'll go ahead and say the Alamo has been a particular area of study for me over many years
      All Alamo movies have many inaccuracies but the Disney version gets one thing right that most others don't. The sense of being entrapped and the desperation felt by the defenders is very strong here.


      BraxtonB
      If at first you don't secede, try, try again.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by BraxtonB View Post
        There is still much debate over whether Houston ordered the Alamo blown up. He said in a letter to Governor Smith that he would order the works destroyed if the governor thought it was a wise move. Many of Houston's post-war accounts were designed to cover his ass. When Houston should have been assembling an army he was off drinking with the Cherokee, for example.
        The portrayal of Travis was also wrong. He was not uncertain about anything. He was brash, headstrong and almost started the revolution single-handedly. If someone had disobeyed a direct order as portrayed in the 2004 flick Travis probably would have shot him. Travis is usually portrayed wrong in the movies, the worst being in Wayne's 1960 Alamo.
        The Crockett surrender story is still up in the air. The so-called de la Pena diary or journal shows too many signs of forgery. Of course a number of contemporary historians have built their reputations using it.
        I'll go ahead and say the Alamo has been a particular area of study for me over many years
        All Alamo movies have many inaccuracies but the Disney version gets one thing right that most others don't. The sense of being entrapped and the desperation felt by the defenders is very strong here.
        Do you think anyone will ever make an accurate Alamo movie, or will the temptation to tamper with history and use 'creative licence' always be too much?
        "Chatfield, there seems to be something wrong with our bloody ships today!"
        Vice Admiral Beatty to Flag Captain Chatfield; Battle of Jutland, 31 May - 1 June, 1916.

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        • #94
          Truth is not that pretty..

          The problem may well be if an accurate rendition is made, people may not go see it. I would love to see the History/Military Channel do a show or two on it. They want John Wayne and Billy Bob Thornton.

          In my eyes, there just are not many attractive people involved in the Alamo/Goliad/San Jacinto series. I had a young lady Texan at my table this week claim to be a descendant of old Sam. She claimed he liked really young females. I have no way to verify or deny. Sam did have a drinking problem and was the ultimate political general (notice I did not capitalize?). Many of the men that went with him on the Great Skeedaddle did not like him at all. How he got repeatedly elected in Texas probably speaks more for the lack of competition than quality.

          I don't quite have a good handle on Buck Travis yet. He did tend to tic people off. I don't see him shooting a subordinate. Too many of the men at the Alamo were Volunteers. If he shot one the rest would have pulled out.

          The former Commander at the Alamo (JC McNiel) could not catch a break. He joined Sam Houston's force and was in on the San Jacinto fracas. What is little told is that wound he got in the "hip" was really his posterior! Poor man almost died of it.

          I don't see people wanting to see the disposal of the Alamo Garrison either. The Mexicans stacked them like cord wood and added some wood and set fire to the pile. Several weeks later the friends and relatives went out and gathered what the weather and critters left behind.

          Pruitt
          Last edited by Pruitt; 31 Oct 08, 23:21.
          Pruitt, you are truly an expert! Kelt06

          Have you been struck by the jawbone of an ASS lately?

          by Khepesh "This is the logic of Pruitt"

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