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  • WAR MOVIE MIX

    Okay, I tried creating several threads to provide interesting content on war movies and basically got cricket noises. So now I am creating a thread to provide a mix of content all in one place. Feel free to comment and contribute. One way that you might want to contribute would be to simply post posters of movies you recommend and maybe why you like the movie. If I agree, I might post a review of the movie, but I will not cut down your choice if I didn't like the movie. I hope this thread will become a place you will visit every day just to see what's new. And don't forget there is a "like" button.

    The topics I plan to cover include:
    back-stories
    trivia
    movie quizzes
    quotes
    recommendations
    on set pictures
    memes

  • #2
    BACK-STORY - "All Quiet on the Western Front" (1930)

    The first great anti-war film was based on the greatest anti-war novel ever written. Lewis Milestone took on the task of bringing Erich Remarque's book to the screen and even considered casting Remarque as Paul Baumer. Lew Ayres won the role and was so affected by it that he became a pacifist and jeopardized his career by claiming conscientious objector status in WWII. His brave service as a medic helped regain much good will from the public. Milestone had learned filmmaking in the Signal Corps during WWI. He knew what war looked like from editing war footage. He recreated no man's land on a ranch in California. Shell holes were blasted with dynamite and then filled with muddy rain water. A French village was built on a back lot and included a canal that was dug for the swimming scene. Twenty tons of black powder and ten tons of dynamite were used for the battle scenes. One explosion resulted in Milestone being hit by debris and knocked unconscious. 2,000 extras were found in California by requesting help from American Legion posts. The US Army could not provide soldiers because American doughboys could not appear in foreign uniforms on film. The 99 day shoot was double the planned 48. The $.9 million budget boomed to $1.4 million. It paid off as the movie was a smashing success and won the Best Picture Oscar. Milestone won Best Director and the film was nominated for Writing and Cinematography. It was ranked #54 on AFIs original list of the 100 greatest movies, but did not make the revised list issued in 2007! (See below for the list of war movies that made the list.) It was not a smashing success in Nazi Germany, a country Remarque had been forced to flee for his life. At its premiere, Goebbels had the Brown Shirts release mice, stink bombs, and sneezing powder to clear the theater. The movie was pulled after a week and not shown again in Germany until 1952 ( the year Remarque returned to his homeland ).

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    • #3
      For what itís worth, the debates over the rightness or wrongness of tactical and strategic in film have always been engaging in my mind. For example, the question of whether the Ranger squad should have engaged the machine gun nest in Saving Private Ryan.
      "This life..., you know, "the life." Youíre not gonna get any medals, kid. This is not a hero business; you donít shoot people from a mile a way. You gotta stand right next to them... blow their heads off."

      BoRG

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      • #4
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        Last edited by marktwain; 27 Jun 19, 21:49. Reason: pqrked until I come up with something better....
        The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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        • #5
          "APOCALYPSE NOW" TRIVIA

          1. There are no credits at the beginning so for legal purposes "Apocalypse Now" is chalked on a wall in the temple complex.
          2. The only full shot of Brando (standing in the doorway of the temple) is of a double. A much taller double.
          3. Brando was hired for $3 million and insisted on being available for only three weeks, 5 days a week. He almost did not show up and when he did he had lied about being familiar with the book. He spent the first few days gabbing with Coppola in his trailer.
          4. Brando hated working with Hopper. At one point in the film, he throws something at him and called him a "mutt". That was improv.
          5. Mrs. Coppola had witnessed a water buffalo sacrifice and urged her husband to incorporate it. That is a real animal that is being hacked to death. Coppola refused to do a second take.
          6. Sheen was given last rites after his heart attack.
          7. Coppola lost 100 pounds during the shoot.
          8. Main scenes that were cut (and restored for "Apocalypse Now Redux"):
          - meeting up with the Playmates and exchanging fuel for sex
          - the French plantation - the PBR stops at a French plantation in an obvious attempt to bring the odyssey back in time to the 1950s (to show how perfectionism can border on lunacy, Coppola insisted the wines served at the dinner scene be chilled at a specific temperature! And then he didn't even use the scene.)
          9. Milius was a hawk and wanted one theme to be that the U.S. did not put in enough effort to win the war. He was upset that the film ended up being anti-war.
          10. The Huey that air-lifted the PBR could not have performed that task.
          11. Hopper refused to learn his lines, bathe, or change his clothes.
          12. In the 35mm theatrical run, Coppola ran the exploding of the temple behind the credits. In the 70 mm limited release, that footage was not used.
          13. Coppola hired the Ifugao tribe to come live on the temple set and live their lives.

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          • #6
            Here is one I would recommend: Elem Klimov's Come and See [Idi i Smotri]. It is available with English subtitles. Did I like the film? It is not a film that you can describe in terms of liking. It is a brutal film depicting the German occupation of Belorussia in latter part of the war, seen through the eyes of an adolescent. The scene where an SS unit eradicates a Belorussian village along all of its inhabitants is something that has stayed with me for years, and truth be told I have only been able to watch the film once. The film itself sometimes takes on quite surreal dimensions at times, with an ever present German surveillance plane seemingly constantly overhead and events juxtaposed without any warning or lead up. Definitely not for the squeamish or those looking for a Hollywood type war movie with some sort of morally satisfying conclusion.

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            • #7
              MOVIE QUIZ

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              • #8
                QUOTE - I love the smell of napalm in the morning. You know, one time we had a hill bombed, for 12 hours. When it was all over, I walked up. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' dink body. The smell, you know that gasoline smell, the whole hill. Smelled like - victory. Someday this war's gonna end. - Lt. Col. Bill Kilgore, "Apocalypse Now" (1979)

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                • #9
                  FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION - BLACK BOOK

                  "The Black Book" is a Dutch movie about the Resistance during WWII. It was directed with his usual flair for sex and violence by Paul Verhoeven. It is one of the best war movie to come out of Holland. It was released in 2006 and is well-respected among critics and audiences. It does have its haters, however.
                  A very comely young woman (Carice van Houten) seeks revenge for the murder of her parents by the Gestapo by joining the Resistance and going undercover to seduce a German officer. Romance ensues and the usual twists and turns of a spy movie. The movie has some plot holes and is unrealistic, but it is done with verve and is entertaining. It is among the best WWII espionage/resistance movies and possibly the most entertaining for a mass audience, especially women.

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                  • #10
                    ON SET - What movie?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by warmoviebuff View Post
                      ON SET - What movie?
                      I'm thinking those two men are Jim Brown and Clint Walker, and I'll bet a dozen beers on that..

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                      • #12
                        The Playboy Bunny is Dolly Read. She later married Dick Martin of "Laugh-In" fame.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Skoblin View Post
                          Here is one I would recommend: Elem Klimov's Come and See [Idi i Smotri]. It is available with English subtitles. Did I like the film? It is not a film that you can describe in terms of liking. It is a brutal film depicting the German occupation of Belorussia in latter part of the war, seen through the eyes of an adolescent. The scene where an SS unit eradicates a Belorussian village along all of its inhabitants is something that has stayed with me for years, and truth be told I have only been able to watch the film once. The film itself sometimes takes on quite surreal dimensions at times, with an ever present German surveillance plane seemingly constantly overhead and events juxtaposed without any warning or lead up. Definitely not for the squeamish or those looking for a Hollywood type war movie with some sort of morally satisfying conclusion.
                          I tried watching this film in its entirety, twice. The village scene is an unforgettable moment that lingers for a long time, in fact I can't find any other war movie scene that could replicate the heartlessness and depressingly hopeless situation they portrayed.
                          "In modern war... you will die like a dog for no good reason."
                          Ernest Hemingway.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by warmoviebuff View Post
                            "APOCALYPSE NOW" TRIVIA

                            ...
                            8. Main scenes that were cut (and restored for "Apocalypse Now Redux"):
                            - meeting up with the Playmates and exchanging fuel for sex
                            - the French plantation - the PBR stops at a French plantation in an obvious attempt to bring the odyssey back in time to the 1950s (to show how perfectionism can border on lunacy, Coppola insisted the wines served at the dinner scene be chilled at a specific temperature! And then he didn't even use the scene.)
                            ...
                            I have that DVD version, and I feel the redux made the film more richer for it. The French plantation scene is good and it added another dimension about colonialism. Even my avatar is Willard after accepting his mission and giving the audience a blank stare. Great movie.
                            "In modern war... you will die like a dog for no good reason."
                            Ernest Hemingway.

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