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  • #61
    Rough and wrinkly? He's only 44. I will be 54. He doesn't look that bad.


    Originally posted by redcoat View Post
    I enjoyed it, it was a good film.
    However, my wife and daughter are not fans of Mr Craig, they think he's too rough and wrinkly for the role
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    • #62
      Obviously they don't remember how wrinkly Roger Moore and Sean Connery got!

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      • #63
        Probably so.
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        • #64
          Originally posted by pete almquist View Post
          I stopped watching Bond films after the first few with Roger Moore. As mentioned they were basically the same movie over and over and becoming more ridiculous with each iteration. I got a little more interested with Timothy Dalton...his portrayals were a touch more serious and gritty. I think the films with Daniel Craig brought new zest to the franchise. I actually look forward to them. Without the stupid props of flying cars, submarine cars, etc. it portrays things in a much more realistic way. More power to them!
          I agree. By the time it got to Brosnan the Bond franchise was way off course. I think it was the Bourne franchise that got things moving back in the right direction. Away from trying to get more and more high tech, and back to the basics of being a spy/counterspy.

          As to this latest one, I'll say that it is much slower than the previous two, or many of the Bond films of the last couple decades. However, it has a purpose, several in fact, and it does a good job of fulfilling those. It brings in a whole new generation to the Bond Franchise for one. With these 3 films, someone can then go back and watch the older ones, and instantly understand where Bond came from, what his driving forces are, and what kind of man he really is. They also set the setting that was an anchor for all the Bond films.

          What we have to remember is that generally speaking, before the Craig Bond, all the films were episodes in the career of the agent (or agents if you're of the sort that believes Bond is a code name) James Bond. Craig's Bond takes us from the very beginning (again) with a Bond that is already a bit of a loose cannon, but quite green, and we see him suffer betrayal and loss and get torn out of the frame by love betrayed, and then get hardened. In the second film you see a hard unfeeling Bond who is decidedly a loose cannon, and his journey to finding purpose and such again. This latest one sees that come full circle, you get to see Bond's patriotism and see a grittier MI6 with its own serious problems between domestic and foreign troubles, and how Bond copes with it. And it ends with a good setup for either future episodes, or for someone to now go back and watch previous episodes and have an emotional connection of some sort with Bond, and have a sense of familiarity with the format.

          Personally, I thought this movie was slow in some respects, and yes it did have a few plot holes. But I think that I'm going to stick around. Daniel Craig might have another Bond film or two in him, and those can follow the iconic 'episodic' format, where we don't need to spend time in Bond's life, just hit the mission and go through the film with the investigation, intrigue, action, women, women, women, action, women, bad guy, and did I mention women?
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          • #65
            Yes! Women. Dalton TRIED to take it back to the original. He was the one who wanted it called 'Ian Fleming's James Bond 007.' Which I liked.
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            • #66
              I have some thoughts on the next one, and it isn't the dude in Twilight.
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              • #67
                Roger Moore, back in the day, started to remind me of Bob Barker from the Price is Right.
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                • #68
                  Originally posted by TacCovert4 View Post
                  and those can follow the iconic 'episodic' format, where we don't need to spend time in Bond's life, just hit the mission and go through the film with the investigation, intrigue, action, women, women, women, action, women, bad guy, and did I mention women?
                  Most likely. Between the three we have, they covered how bond becomes cold in Casino Royale, and his origins in Skyfall, that's all the character building we need. Plus, Skyfall also developed MI6, mostly M but also Q and the inner organization.
                  I'm sure now they'll feel confident going closer to the old format of focusing on a specific large scale plot by the villain.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Castro View Post
                    Sorry mate but this is way off.

                    Casino Royale is widely considered one of the best Bond movies ever. You can certainly disagree, but the movie studios go by the mainstream opinion, and both critics and audience loved it, myself included. Casino Royale is the highest-grossing instalment of the James Bond series and Quantum of Solace broke the UK opening weekend record.

                    Plus, the Bond film franchise is the biggest in history. Even if these movies were bad, 007 can endure at least 5 turds untill anybody starts thinking about dropping it. It has been going since 1962 and is, adjusted for inflation, the highest-grossing film franchise in history.

                    Both money and critics agree that Bond is as healthy as he has ever been.
                    Esp for us Woody allen fans...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casino_Royale_(1967_film)

                    My favorite is still Dr No, 1962, low budget, extras adding their twist & looking like they really enjoyed what they were doing.
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                    • #70
                      I never liked Woody Allen for some reason.
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                      • #71
                        I saw Skyfall last Tuesday,

                        Great movie to switch off to and let the story play.

                        Daniel Craig certainly gives a more serious and realistic edge to the character... With a dash or two of more wit, I think we'd have a perfect James Bond.

                        I'm more partial to George Lazenby as my favorite James Bond, but that may be because he was in the first 007 movie I watched.

                        My belief is that the first JB movie someone watches directly correlates to which actor is their favourite JB character. Thoughts anyone?

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Capt AFB View Post
                          My belief is that the first JB movie someone watches directly correlates to which actor is their favourite JB character. Thoughts anyone?
                          That thought probably applies to more than Bond movies.

                          Like the first music we heard, the first food we enjoyed, and so much more.


                          Philip
                          "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." Bertrand Russell

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                          • #73
                            I've been watching them since a kid. My first was Goldfinger, but I've seen all of them.(only 1 Brosnan) I have the entire collection. I liked Connery first, but Craig has surpassed him. That is true, he needs more wit, and even a bit more women, that would be a true 007.
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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Capt AFB View Post
                              My belief is that the first JB movie someone watches directly correlates to which actor is their favourite JB character. Thoughts anyone?
                              My first Bond was Connery. And he was my favorite up until recently, but Timothy Dalton was very close. Now, I'm a Daniel Craig guy.
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