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    Been looking to get my hands on The History of England, by the English historian John Lingard. Has anyone here read this work by Lingard?

    One could say Lingard offers an opposing view to the likes of Pro "reformation" historians.


    https://www.amazon.com/History-Engla.../dp/1475221002
    Long live the Lionheart! Please watch this video
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  • #2
    Originally posted by Stonewall_Jack View Post
    Been looking to get my hands on The History of England, by the English historian John Lingard. Has anyone here read this work by Lingard?

    One could say Lingard offers an opposing view to the likes of Pro "reformation" historians.


    https://www.amazon.com/History-Engla.../dp/1475221002
    If it's the book I'm thinking of it was written in 1819. Highly likely to be the establishment view at the time.
    "Sometimes its better to light a flamethrower than to curse the darkness" T Pratchett

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    • #3
      Originally posted by DARKPLACE View Post
      If it's the book I'm thinking of it was written in 1819. Highly likely to be the establishment view at the time.
      Highly unlikely as the establishment was firmly against catholic emancipation at the time and Lingard was providing ammunition for those campaigning for it. There were significant implications for Ireland in giving catholics democratic rights and it was something of a hot potato at the time. The laws finally removing legal discriminations were not passed until 1829
      Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe (H G Wells)
      Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens (Friedrich von Schiller)

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Stonewall_Jack View Post
        Been looking to get my hands on The History of England, by the English historian John Lingard. Has anyone here read this work by Lingard?

        One could say Lingard offers an opposing view to the likes of Pro "reformation" historians.


        https://www.amazon.com/History-Engla.../dp/1475221002
        If you use www.bookfinder.com and do a search you'll find numerous copies available starting at under 8.00 (you can set the site to work in US$)
        Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe (H G Wells)
        Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens (Friedrich von Schiller)

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        • #5
          More on Lingard

          Lingards "The History of England" was praised up and down Europe, even being read by curious Protestants,

          John Lingard

          English priest and historian b. at Winchester, 5 February, 1771; d. at Hornby, 17 July, 1851. He was the son of Lincolnshire yeomen, John Lingard and Elizabeth Rennell, whom poverty and persecution had driven to migrate from their native Claxby, first to London, where they met again and married, then, after a short return to their old, home, to Winchester, where he was born. He inherited from a stock winnowed and strengthened by the ceaseless oppression of two centuries the silent stubborn, almost sullen longing for the conversion of his native land, that is so intimate a characteristic of the pre-Emancipation Catholic.
          ...
          Honours from every part of Europe confirmed the general appreciation of the "History". Lingard's triple doctorate from Pius VII in 1821, his associate-ship of the Royal Society of Literature, and many other similar honours were finally crowned, in 1839, by a grant from the Privy Purse of 300 and his election as a corresponding member of the French Academy.

          http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09270c.htm
          Long live the Lionheart! Please watch this video
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=jRDwlR4zbEM
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3DBaY0RsxU
          Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory.

          George S Patton

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          • #6
            Originally posted by DARKPLACE View Post
            If it's the book I'm thinking of it was written in 1819. Highly likely to be the establishment view at the time.
            Yes the full title of the series is The History of England, From the First Invasion by the Romans to the Accession of Henry VIII

            Lingards History of England series seems very attractive and I plan on getting this one,



            https://www.amazon.com/History-Engla.../dp/1330033620
            Long live the Lionheart! Please watch this video
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=jRDwlR4zbEM
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3DBaY0RsxU
            Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory.

            George S Patton

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            • #7
              Originally posted by MarkV View Post
              If you use www.bookfinder.com and do a search you'll find numerous copies available starting at under 8.00 (you can set the site to work in US$)
              Thanks for the link. That is a reasonable price.
              Long live the Lionheart! Please watch this video
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=jRDwlR4zbEM
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3DBaY0RsxU
              Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory.

              George S Patton

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Stonewall_Jack View Post
                Lingards "The History of England" was praised up and down Europe, even being read by curious Protestants,

                John Lingard

                English priest and historian b. at Winchester, 5 February, 1771; d. at Hornby, 17 July, 1851. He was the son of Lincolnshire yeomen, John Lingard and Elizabeth Rennell, whom poverty and persecution had driven to migrate from their native Claxby, first to London, where they met again and married, then, after a short return to their old, home, to Winchester, where he was born. He inherited from a stock winnowed and strengthened by the ceaseless oppression of two centuries the silent stubborn, almost sullen longing for the conversion of his native land, that is so intimate a characteristic of the pre-Emancipation Catholic.
                ...
                Honours from every part of Europe confirmed the general appreciation of the "History". Lingard's triple doctorate from Pius VII in 1821, his associate-ship of the Royal Society of Literature, and many other similar honours were finally crowned, in 1839, by a grant from the Privy Purse of 300 and his election as a corresponding member of the French Academy.

                http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09270c.htm
                Lincolnshire was probably about the worst place in England to be a catholic. It was home to the most fervent of the English Puritans (including one of my ancestors John Robinson). Worcestershire and rural Lancashire would have been much more tolerant.
                Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe (H G Wells)
                Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens (Friedrich von Schiller)

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by MarkV View Post
                  Highly unlikely as the establishment was firmly against catholic emancipation at the time and Lingard was providing ammunition for those campaigning for it. There were significant implications for Ireland in giving catholics democratic rights and it was something of a hot potato at the time. The laws finally removing legal discriminations were not passed until 1829
                  You really need to choose your puns more carefully.

                  I was married for two ******* years! Hell would be like Club Med! - Sam Kinison

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by slick_miester View Post
                    You really need to choose your puns more carefully.

                    Perhaps you need to understand what a pun is and the difference with an apt metaphor
                    Last edited by MarkV; 23 Jan 18, 14:48.
                    Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe (H G Wells)
                    Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens (Friedrich von Schiller)

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by MarkV View Post
                      Perhaps you need to understand what a pun is and the difference with an apt metaphor
                      But then it wouldn't have been funny.
                      I was married for two ******* years! Hell would be like Club Med! - Sam Kinison

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