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  • The Siege of Mecca: The Forgotten Uprising in Islam's Holiest Shrine and the Birth of al-Qaeda by Yaroslov Tromimov. Fabulous read. This happened in 1979 and I never knew the details until reading this.

    http://www.amazon.com/Siege-Mecca-Fo...7002741&sr=1-4
    I often think how much easier the world would have been to manage if Herr Hitler and Signor Mussolini had been at Oxford. Lord Halifax

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    • Well, I wrapped up three books yesterday.

      The one (two above) on Grant's Overland Campaign, that I was really sorry to end...I wished it would just go on.

      An Osprey Campaign series book on the Battle for the Rhineland in 1945, which was OK, but not the best.

      And a book called History of the Arabs that I just gave up on. Too tedious too be worth the missing hours from my life to finish it.

      Now I'm looking for something new to read. I've got a bookshelf full of books...maybe 30 of them...in my bedroom waiting to be read and moved to the library. Gotta start tomorrow and I'm looking forward to it!
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      • I just finished Osprey's US Airborne Divisions in the ETO 1944-45. Currently I'm reading an wartime autobiography of a fellow that served in the 242d FA, Serving The Pieces by Edward V. Walsh. What really attracted me to that book was, first the writing style. It's not polished, but more like a series of stories you would expect your grandfather to tell ( so don't expect fully researched and tied in, it was the war from his viewpoint.) Second was the optional DVD loaded with pictures. Almost 500 total covering from his enlistment, to the end of the war and a couple of reunion shots.

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        • Originally posted by Naffenea View Post
          I just finished Osprey's US Airborne Divisions in the ETO 1944-45. Currently I'm reading an wartime autobiography of a fellow that served in the 242d FA, Serving The Pieces by Edward V. Walsh. What really attracted me to that book was, first the writing style. It's not polished, but more like a series of stories you would expect your grandfather to tell ( so don't expect fully researched and tied in, it was the war from his viewpoint.) Second was the optional DVD loaded with pictures. Almost 500 total covering from his enlistment, to the end of the war and a couple of reunion shots.
          Damn, that's great! Where did you get it?
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          • Which? The Osprey book I got from Borders. You can get Serving the Pieces from Amazon, but they don't have the DVD option. I bought mine from http://www.242nd-field-artillery.com/ for $34.90, shipping included.

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            • I'm onto a really thick (696 pages without the index), of a book called:

              " Cobra II "
              By: Michael Gordon & Bernard Trainor.

              I'll just quote the text from the top of the soft cover version right after saying it is an international bestseller (from the UK version).

              "By far the most authoritative and convincing account thus far of 2003's military events... a shocking indictment" Max Hastings, Sunday Telegraph.

              I have only been through the first hundred pages, but I must say, that even if only half of what is said of especially Rumsfeld, then boy oh boy, did the military dictum, of 'leave the planning of the military op to the military men', go out with the bathwater in Rumsfeld's view of a 'new army'!

              And not only that he was implementing his ideas on a live war! Not some long time consuming peacetime makeover...

              Anyway, I havent got to the part where the shooting starts, but it shure is interesting.

              Imho the best book I have read about the Iraq war, and I have read about four (mostly accounts of soldiers and their personal experiences, and one book that was very confusing, even though it was written by a very esteemed historian, Mr John Keegan himself.

              But his book on the Iraq 2003 war, wasnt really. I found it just a good history of the Baathist party, and how Saddam came to power, but as for the desicion making, and the combat and it's leadership, there was'nt really anything there...

              Cobra II, on the other hand, is very well written, gives background, and even if biased, at least gives one something to chew on!

              I recommend it on the first hundred pages (and some peeping into the very gripping description of the action that starts arround page 190), alone!









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              "SI VIS PACEM, PARA BELLUM" - " If you want peace, prepare for war".

              If acted upon in time, ww2 could have been stopped without a single bullet being fired. - Sir Winston Churchill

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              • That's a good book.

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                • Europe Central by William T Vollmann. If your into WW2 then this is a cracking read. Highly recommended.
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                  • I just finished (this morning about 540am) a really good book by Charles Walker called Combat Officer aboaut his time in WW2 in the Pacific.
                    I let it sit for a long time before I read it.

                    Pacific War? Not my cup of tea. Never has been. Never will be.

                    Once I started reading there was no way to put it down. This is WW2 from the point of view of the crankiest captain/major ever to serve in the US Army (and I mean that in a nice way). He points out the losers, duds, cowards, and criminals that he had the displeasure to serve under, as well as all the foul ups large and small that made life hard for him and his men. He describes cowardly guerrillas and officers who refused to go to the front, but got promoted anyway as well as ring-knockers and scumbags who passed him on their way to high rank. I really enjoyed this book and was sorry to see it end this morning. Got to find something worthy to read next.
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                    • Just started Rise and Fall of the Third Reich last night after finishing Covered in Glory. It is going to be a long read, 1100 some odd pages.
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                      • I'm a huge fan of Lone Survivor. I'm reading a few right now. "Looming Tower", Vince Flynn "Transfer of Power", Tom Clancy "Rainbow Six" (not a clone by someone else), Lee Childs "Without Fail", and "Reagan In His Own Hand".... I like to jump around. And I work at Borders, which keeps me previewing titles. Drives me nuts sometimes, but I love the job...
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                        • My New Book

                          My brother got me "Monty's Iron Sides" by Patrick Delaforce. It's supposed to be about the 3rd Division, from D-Day to Bremen. It's my first "Brit Book" from World War II.
                          "This life..., you know, "the life." You’re not gonna get any medals, kid. This is not a hero business; you don’t shoot people from a mile a way. You gotta stand right next to them... blow their heads off."

                          BoRG

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                          • I´m currently reading "Dunkirk - Fight to the Last Man" by Hugh Sebag-Montefiore.

                            Very impressive the way in which he blends together a wealth of personal accounts, diaries, after-action reports etc. from British,French,German, Dutch and Belgian sources.

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                            • A Time for Trumpets: The Untold Story of the Battle of the Bulge, by Charles MacDonald
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                              • Originally posted by Whiterook View Post
                                A Time for Trumpets: The Untold Story of the Battle of the Bulge, by Charles MacDonald
                                I can't wait to get my copy. It's one of the highest rated books on the Airborne Research site I belong to....
                                "This life..., you know, "the life." You’re not gonna get any medals, kid. This is not a hero business; you don’t shoot people from a mile a way. You gotta stand right next to them... blow their heads off."

                                BoRG

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