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    I posted this same question in 2010. Got some ideas, but was never able to completely scratch the itch. So here it is again. Any ideas welcome:

    I played Avalon hill games when I was growing up, and loved them. I'm sure this has been asked a million times, but I have been unable to find any new PC games that really fills that old desire. Closest I have found was an old AH game that I no longer have where the usa protected Iran from Iraq in the 80's or so. (that one politically out of date!) I also liked panzer general I a lot, but not pg2, but I've played that to death. I have the newer Panzer corps, and it's "ok".

    I would very much appreciate some advice looking for a game. This is what I want:

    1) turn based strategic game. my all time favorites are AH Russian Campaign and 3rd Reich, and panzer general I.
    2) I don't want something uber complicated or uber long. I don't want to control every convoy down to the last sailor with a pistol, if you know what I mean. 3rd Reich and Russian campaign are about as big and technical as I want.
    3) I would very much like to have online p vs p capability.
    4) I want a game with acceptable AI, because I'm usually playing alone.
    5) Some games I have tried, but not really perfect:
    strategic command (battlefront) this game uses squares (just doesn't make sense to me) also has a lot of things that I don't like such as research etc. being too random. (note the new one with hexes is still just "ok."
    Gary Grigsby game, forget the name, it was too big. I remember one (may not have been Gary) that was all about supply I tried a couple years ago. I spent all my time buying trucks.
    Axis and Allies. too simple.
    uncommon valor: too big.

    So if you guys have any advice, I would sure like to try some demos!


  • #2
    World in Flames if you want a huge super complex game. Also its 30% off this weekend.

    Warning this isn't for tyros...
    Credo quia absurdum.

    Quantum mechanics describes nature as absurd from the point of view of common sense. And yet it fully agrees with experiment. So I hope you can accept nature as She is - absurd! - Richard Feynman


    • #3
      Thanx Bwaha; but surly you jest.

      I said gary grigsby was too complicated. This game makes his look like chutes and ladders


      • #4
        You might want to take a look at this game, described in a slightly older thread:


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