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  • Civil War 2 Grand Campaign AAR

    So I’ve purchased Civil War 2 from Matrix games, studied the manual, and gotten slapped around like a red-haired stepchild by the AI a couple times, getting a feel for the game.

    As the name indicates, this is a game of the Civil War. ALL of the Civil War. You will be in charge of political decisions, economic decisions (to include infrastructure), budgetary issues, international relationships, naval warfare, land warfare, and riverine warfare from the Atlantic to the Pacific. You have to deal with irregulars, Indian outbreaks, and possible foreign intervention in addition to the rebellion of the slave states.

    All that said, once you’ve tinkered with the mechanics, it is not really all that hard to get things done. I have found it very helpful to jot down notes as the turns progress as reminders, but a lot of issues are fairly automated (such as the ability to just assign ships to blockade duties).

    ‘Counters’ are individual ships, flotillas of river boats, generals, regiments (various flavors of infantry and cavalry), battalions (engineers, balloons), and batteries. You assemble land units into brigades, divisions, corps, and armies, and have at it. Turns are 15 days, and the graphics are very nice.

    There are a couple issues I have seen so far: the inability to custom name ‘stacks’ or groups of land units means you can end up with some strange titles, such as a division-sized all-arms organization called ‘Schrutz’s Cavalry’. Also generals’ stats are not consistent. Combat stats (defense, offense, and strategic) are better if higher numbers, but in seniority a lower number is better. Promoting junior officers over senior causes home front morale to take a hit. While screens allow you to list units and ships, there is no option to list generals and their stats, which would be very useful.

    This is not meant to be a fast-paced shoot-‘em’-up, but a slow, careful strategic game. You will find yourself controlling the massive armies of the East theater, and maneuvering single regiments to deal with bushwhackers and Indians.

    You purchase new units in addition to receiving various historical units. Units are drawn from states, and each state can only support X amount of troops at any one time. In addition, there is a lag between a unit being created (placed on map) and when it is fit for duty.

    It is highly addictive.
    Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

  • #2
    OK, I have chosen to play the 115+ turn Grand Campaign as the Union, with historical values for the generals, Sergeant difficulty (medium) with +1 Activation & Normal aggressiveness, and the foreign intervention chances turned to the lowest setting (basically, I would have to invade Canada to get the Brits involved).


    Turn 1, Early April 1861
    National Morale: 85
    Victory Points: 50

    I cannot assemble Corps until spring ’62, which represents the confusion of the early days.

    Events
    Fort Sumner is fired upon, and surrenders.

    Administrative Decisions
    I have declared complete blockade of the rebel states. I have ordered three areas to received extra funding for regional improvement, three areas in Indiana to have tracks surveyed and created, and one area in Indiana to have tracks upgraded to roads.

    Naval Dispositions
    None. The Navy is reorganizing in the face of the crisis. (no units active)

    Land Operations
    None. The Army is reorganizing in the face of the crisis. (no units active)

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Turn 2 Late April 1861
    National Morale: 86
    Victory Points: 66

    Events
    Rails are damaged NE of Baltimore in the wake of the Pratt Street riots.
    Virginia secedes.
    Fortifications are begun at Washington DC.

    Administrative Decisions
    Built a NY infantry regiment, a Penn artillery battery, and a supply unit).

    Naval Dispositions
    The blockade is mounted. At this point it is pretty thin.

    Land Operations
    Ordered a single regiment of cavalry under BG Schurtz to Fairfax VA (just outside Washington DC).

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Turn 3 Early May 1861
    National Morale: 87
    Victory Points: 104

    Events
    Tennessee and Arkansas secede.

    Administrative Decisions
    Built a regiment of California militia, two of NY Zouaves, one of New Mexico Rangers, sharpshooter regiments in Ohio, WV, CT. Built three regiments of cavalry and two batteries of artillery.

    Naval Operations
    I have designated Annapolis as my forward base for a future operation against New Orleans. As ships become active I am ordering them there, along with the USMC (regiment sized element).

    Land Operations
    The 1st-5th Divisions are forming around Washington DC. The Northeastern Virnia Army has been formed under Gen McDowell, but it is still forming.
    I have ordered BG Schurtz, reinforced with a regiment of infantry, to take Fredericktown, VA. He succeeded against no resistance.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Turn 4 Late May 1861
    National Morale: 92
    Victory Points: 148

    Events
    North Carolina secedes.
    Martial law established in Maryland.
    In accordance with a secret agreement with Sam Houston, Federal troops secure Dallas, Texas.

    Administrative Decisions
    Invested in additional telegraph improvements in California, more trails in NM, and cash incentives in Kansas.
    Built two squadrons of transport ships, a battery of horse artillery, and a USMC landing force.

    Naval Operations
    As before.

    Land Operations
    Ordered the 2nd Texas Cavalry to seize Forth Worth. No opposition.
    Ordered the 10th WA Cavalry to seize Parkersburg on the Ohio River. No opposition.


    It should be noted that I am employing all the military forces I have active. The Union Army is rather large, but nearly all the units are still forming.
    Last edited by Arnold J Rimmer; 12 Mar 16, 14:07.
    Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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    • #3
      Great another AAR that you are going to get me hooked on. You are evil!
      Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedy. -- Ernest Benn

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Tsar View Post
        Great another AAR that you are going to get me hooked on. You are evil!
        Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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        • #5
          Turn 5 Early June 1861
          National Morale: 93
          Victory Points: 195

          Events
          None.

          Administrative Decisions
          Ordered the Treasury to issue War Bonds.
          Ordered Militia for California (to replace the Regulars heading into the SW), Rangers in Texas, three regiments of infantry, two of cavalry, two USMC landing forces, two medical companies, a pontoon train, and a battalion of engineers.

          Naval Operations
          The Navy is fully operational and assembling at Annapolis. River transports and gunboats are coming into service.

          Land Operations
          Ordered troops from California into western AZ.
          Ordered the 1st NM Cavalry to secure Mesila. The force halted outside the town due to CSA forces occupying it.
          Ordered BG Mansfield with a brigade-sized force to march from western MD to occupy Harper’s Ferry, meeting Stone’s Command advancing from Washington DC. Neither force is moving very briskly.

          =============================

          Turn 6 Late June 1861
          National Morale: 94
          Victory Points: 211

          Events
          CSA occupied Fort Gibson, IT, without resistance.
          Used War Bond funds to build ironworks and armories across New England.

          Administrative Decisions
          Assigned a ballon unit to the Army of NW Virginia.

          Naval Operations
          Ordered BG Shields with a regiment of light infantry and a battery of field guns to bolster Fort Monroe, VA, with a strong naval escort. They arrived without incident.

          Land Operations
          Ordered the Army of NWV to Manassas. They besiege the CSA force in the city.

          =============================================

          Turn 7 Early July 1861
          National Morale: 93
          Victory Points: 253

          Events
          None.

          Administrative Decisions
          I offered $1 bonus pay for volunteers.
          Ordered expansion to the rail and riverine assets, and armories to be built in CT and the middle states. Three more regions in IL were funded for land clearing and development.
          Ordered two units of Rangers for Texas, seven regiments of militia (CA, NM, IN, IL, 2 KS, WV) for garrison and security, and one infantry regiment.

          Naval Operations
          None.

          Land Operations
          Harper’s Ferry occupied, advanced fortifications ordered.
          Ordered two regiments out of Cairo IL to occupy Charleston MO. It did without resistance.
          Continued siege of Manassas because none of the five divisions are stronger than a brigade.

          ================================================

          Turn 8 Late July 1861
          National Morale: 95
          Victory Points: 466
          USA Losses: 150 dead
          CSA Losses: 420 dead, 38k POW

          Events
          Manassas surrendered.
          Tennessee seceded,
          90 day volunteers discharged.
          CSA took two towns in the IT.
          CSA attacked Dallas, but one group of Rangers are holding out.
          AZ is now under US control.

          Administrative Decisions

          Naval Operations
          Dispatched BG Wood by sea with five regiments of infantry, two batteries of field guns, and a supply train to secure the naval base at Norfolk, which is ungarrisoned but still in friendly hands. They landed without problem.

          Land Operations
          Transferred the 5th Division’s combat elements to the First Division and sent the HQ and support elements back to Port Tobacco (south of DC) to be rebuilt. The rest of the Army of NWV is recovering from the siege.
          Ordered BG Lyon to bring his full force across to Charlestown, and sent militia to occupy Cairo and a fleet of river craft to support Lyon.
          Various forces amounting to a strong brigade under BG Sumner are closing on Jefferson City MO, an important rail town.

          =================================================

          Turn 8 Early August 1861
          National Morale: 100
          Victory Points: 510
          USA Losses: 150 killed
          CSA Losses: 360 killed, 38k POW

          Events
          Kentucky secedes.

          Administrative Decisions
          Second issue of war bonds.
          Expanded rail and riverine asserts.
          Ordered trails laid in three regions of NM, and telegraph assets increased in Ill.
          Ordered a regiment of CA militia, seven regiments of cavalry, seven batteries of field artillery, one battery of horse artillery, a medical company, two pontoon companies, one engineer battalion, and a balloon unit.

          Naval Operations
          None.

          Land Operations
          Transferred the 4th Division’s combat elements to the 3rd Division and sent the HQ and support elements back to be rebuilt.
          Ordered BG Wood to send one regiment forward to seize Suffolk VA to act as a buffer for Norfolk.
          The 1st Division was ordered to assault Culpepper vA, while the 2nd Division was ordered to take Falmouth VA. Both movements were successful.

          Note: Stonewall Jackson is in front of Harper’s Ferry with a strong force, and scouts are spotting troops in front of Richmond.
          Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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          • #6
            Interesting! When will you get to attack New Orleans?

            Pruitt
            Pruitt, you are truly an expert! Kelt06

            Have you been struck by the jawbone of an ASS lately?

            by Khepesh "This is the logic of Pruitt"

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Pruitt View Post
              Interesting! When will you get to attack New Orleans?

              Pruitt
              When I can assemble the troops. I have enough naval firepower and transport capacity, but I just don't have the men. If you look you'll see I purchased three USMC landing forces (roughly regimental strength) but they are all still forming. I have to keep a heavy force inching towards Richmond (although its barely Corps strength), and cover a long range of area. Kentucky going to the CSA will soak up all the militia I raised just to cover border security.

              As you can see I'm steadily increasing my forces each turn, but it takes months to train and equip them, and my generals art this point are pretty feeble.

              I've got to stay within budget, I'm limited by the number of volunteers (drafting hurts the national morale), and I have finite supplies. My only consolation is that the CSA isn't in any better shape; my win at Manassas was due to the units there being short on supplies and largely units that were still forming.

              The fog of war is an issue-I can only see the regions directly adjacent to my troops, and even then there's a chance they won't spot them, or report inaccurately.

              I want to blitz in and put some hurt on the CSA's resources, but I'm fighting on a shoestring.

              From previous sessions I know that the CSA will probe until it finds a gap and then sortie through, so I can't just ignore them snapping up towns in the Indian Territory. Plus there are the Indians themselves-they get eager if I strip the Western posts of Regulars but don't replace them with militia.

              In a previous session I lost Cincinnati because of poor border security. I have to watch every inch of the border, and it doesn't hurt to mount small operations to keep the CSA off-balance.

              The scope of this game is amazing.
              Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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              • #8
                Historically the troops were all from New England. They did a political campaign to get volunteers. Later they raised another bunch of troops to invade Texas with. These troops were promised land in Texas. They were going to kick the rightful owners off their farms and ranches! It was because they wanted to teach those grubby Slaveowners what God fearing New Englanders could do raising cotton! Texan Troops ran them down the Red River back to the Mississippi!

                Do you really want Cincinatti back?

                Pruitt
                Pruitt, you are truly an expert! Kelt06

                Have you been struck by the jawbone of an ASS lately?

                by Khepesh "This is the logic of Pruitt"

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                • #9
                  Almost 80k pows already? Or a typo? How did that play out?
                  Wisdom is personal

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Karri View Post
                    Almost 80k pows already? Or a typo? How did that play out?
                    38,000. The garrison at Manassas surrendered when their supplies ran out.

                    Historically the troops were all from New England
                    .

                    It makes sense, because those states have the highest population. Each state has a limit of how many units it can field.

                    That's another issue for me: I formed a horse artillery battery in Michigan, and its taking two turns to bring it by rail to the DC area.
                    Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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                    • #11
                      Turn 9 Late August
                      National Morale: 100
                      Victory Points: 539
                      USA Losses: 210 killed
                      CSA Losses: 600 killed, 37k POW

                      Events
                      A meeting engagement at Vienna MO between a Union column and CSA militia ended with the Union holding the field.

                      Administrative Decisions
                      Approved funding for better telegraph service in Baltimore and NYNY.
                      Ordered eight supply columns, two signal companies, HQ staff, three siege artillery batteries, and a regiment of infantry.

                      Naval Operations
                      None.

                      Land Operations
                      Formed the Western Command under LTG Hallack in Saint Louis to command the drive down the Ohio River to the Mississippi. I took a morale and VP hit promoting Hallack over Fremont.
                      BG Hooker assumes command of the 1st Division.
                      BG Lyons is ordered to advance to New Madrid MO, supported by gunboats. The gunboats shelled as planned, but Lyons failed to advance.
                      A force of three regiments has been ordered to seize Mumford KY. The force retreated after a minor skirmish.
                      A force of five regiments and one battery are ordered to engage a force under CSA General Floyd outside Clark WV. They won after a pitched battle.
                      The 2nd Division is ordered to take Fredericksburg, VA. The commander did not move as quickly as desired.

                      =======================================

                      Turn 10 Early September
                      National Morale: 96
                      Victory Points: 530
                      USA Losses: 420 killed
                      CSA Losses: 1560 killed, 37k POW

                      Events
                      CSA forces attacked Fort Gibson IL and were driven off.

                      Administrative Decisions
                      Expanded rail and riverine asserts.

                      Naval Operations
                      I moved two warships each to Fort Monroe VA and Norfolk VA to harass CSA naval operations in the area.
                      The Burnside Force now has sufficient infantry for the New Orleans operation, but only has one battery and no support troops.

                      Land Operations
                      An attempt to seize Fort Filmore NM failed, however the CSA garrison then abandoned the fort.
                      A second attempt at Mumford KY failed.
                      The 2nd Division is besieging Fredericksburg VA.

                      ================================================

                      Turn 11 Late September 1861
                      National Morale: 96
                      Victory Points: 573
                      USA Losses: 1380 killed
                      CSA Losses: 1860 killed, 36k POW

                      Events
                      The CSA captured Dallas TX and Fort Scott KS

                      Administrative Decisions
                      Ordered a monitor, four militia regiments (CA, 3 MO), and two batteries of artillery.

                      Naval Operations
                      None.

                      Land Operations
                      BG Milroy is ordered to re-take Fort Scott KS. He succeeds.
                      Ordered the 1st Division to advance on Charlottesville VA to cut Jackson off from Richmond. They are slow to start.
                      BG Lyons finally occupies New Madrid.

                      Note: Light CSA units are coming up through the Indian Territory (IT) and raiding into Kansas and Missouri, forcing me to raise more militia units as garrisons. This is a steady drain of manpower and money.

                      ==============================================

                      Turn 12 Early October 1861
                      National Morale: 96
                      Victory Points: 641
                      USA Losses: 1890killed
                      CSA Losses: 2430 killed, 36k POW

                      Events
                      Fort Pickard FL, my only mainland holding on the Gulf, is under siege.

                      Administrative Decisions
                      Ordered more land clearing and economic encouragement funding.
                      Ordered three batteries of field artillery, two supply trains, and a regiment of infantry.

                      Naval Operations
                      None.

                      Land Operations
                      Union forces are ordered to close on Fort Thorn, NM, opposite El Paso. The Fort is taken.
                      BG Grant supports Lyons.
                      BG Sumner is ordered to take Rollo, MO, securing the rail lines in northern MO. He takes the town under siege.
                      I have discovered a hole in my border defenses which exposes Lexington KY, and so has the CSA. I am rushing troops by rail to the region.
                      The Burnside Force is up to strength on paper, but several units are still forming.
                      The 1st Division finally moved on Charlottesville VA, where it was soundly defeated.

                      ===============================================

                      Turn 13 Late October
                      National Morale: 96
                      Victory Points: 679
                      USA Losses: 4215 killed
                      CSA Losses: 3811 killed, 36k POW

                      Events
                      CSA forces besieging Lexington KY. US cavalry regiment had a meeting engagement and was defeated.

                      Administrative Decisions
                      I ordered a blockade squadron and four regiments of militia (3 IN, 1 MO)

                      Naval Operations
                      None

                      Land Operations
                      Ordered US Grant to take Scott MO to secure the flank of the western Army’s advance. He succeeded.
                      Ordered BG Asboth with three regiments of infantry to take Harrodsburg KY, cutting the supply line of CSA forces advancing upon Lexington KY. Asboth was defeated, but it forced the CSA units besieging Lexington to pull back.
                      Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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                      • #12
                        I am curious as to whether or not you have to exchange those 37,000 POW's? Feeding them should be expensive! Shouldn't Stonewall Jackson have been among those POW's? Historically he was at Manassas. How did you manage to drive Kentucky into secession?

                        Pruitt
                        Pruitt, you are truly an expert! Kelt06

                        Have you been struck by the jawbone of an ASS lately?

                        by Khepesh "This is the logic of Pruitt"

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Pruitt View Post
                          I am curious as to whether or not you have to exchange those 37,000 POW's? Feeding them should be expensive! Shouldn't Stonewall Jackson have been among those POW's? Historically he was at Manassas. How did you manage to drive Kentucky into secession?

                          Pruitt
                          You can exchange prisoners twice a year if both sides agree.

                          I expect much of the POW 'bag' was militia units & newly created units-my seizing Harper's Ferry drew the CSA further west than historically (I think). No significant commanders were amongst the tally.

                          As to KY, that wasn't my doing. The game automatically created a military base at Lexington to support pro-Union elements, and the governor invited the CSA into the state. I can still raise units in northern KY, so I expect its not a formal secession.
                          Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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                          • #14

                            Turn 14 Early November 1861
                            National Morale: 91
                            Victory Points: 721
                            USA Losses: 5220 killed
                            CSA Losses: 4360 killed, 35k POW

                            Events
                            Admiral Foote defeated a squadron of CSA flatboats on the Mississippi/Ohio confluent.
                            Union forces at Dallas were eliminated.
                            Fort Scott IT was taken by the CSA, then retaken by BG Milroy.
                            All regions west of the Rockies are under Union control.

                            Administrative Decisions
                            Expanded rail and riverine assets.
                            Order four regiments of militia (MO, MD, OH x2), a Ranger unit, and a supply train.

                            Naval Operations
                            Moving three squadrons of river craft to the area of Cairo to support operations there.
                            Burnside force still has three batteries forming.

                            Land Operations
                            Two regiments are ordered to advance on El Paso from NM. They seize Fort Bliss, but do not take the city.

                            Note: Considerable reorganization of forces going on.

                            ============================================

                            Turn 15 Late November 1861
                            National Morale: 98
                            Victory Points: 769
                            USA Losses: 5220 killed
                            CSA Losses: 4360 killed, 35k POW

                            Events
                            The CSA seizes Fort Sumner NM.
                            General Winfield Scott resigns as commander of the Army.
                            CSA forces has besieged Metropolis Mo, and important river boat port supporting the Western Army.

                            Administrative Decisions
                            Improved telegraph network in and around the Cario IL area to support the Western Command.
                            Ordered four regiments of NM militia, one regiment of infantry, and four supply trains.

                            Naval Operations
                            None.

                            Land Operations
                            BG Milroy is ordered to retake Fort Baxter IL, which he does against minimal opposition.
                            Two regiments of infantry and a battery of artillery en route to join BG Lyons is diverted to relieve Metropolis MO. They raise the siege.
                            BG Nelson is ordered out of Lexington KY to advance on Haroldsburg KY; BG Porter’s force moves into Lexington to rest and refit. CSA Gen Zollicofter abandons the city and withdraws.

                            =============================================

                            Turn 16 Early December 1861
                            National Morale: 99
                            Victory Points: 823
                            USA Losses: 5310 killed
                            CSA Losses: 4600 killed, 36k POW

                            Events
                            Lousiville KY is now under siege by the CSA Nashville Force under Gen Zollicoffer.
                            Fort Belmont KS is under siege by CSA forces.

                            Administrative Decisions
                            Expanded rail and riverine assets.
                            Awarded funds for more trails in NM.
                            Ordered three regiments of militia (MD, CO x2), a signal company, and a medical company.

                            Naval Operations
                            I am assembling a squadron at Fort Pickens FL (still holding out) to support the push on New Orleans.
                            Admiral Foote defeated a CSA flatboat squadron on the Ohio River.

                            Land Operations
                            A regiment of cavalry is ordered to occupy Warsaw VA. It reaches thearea but fails to accomplish the mission.
                            BG Milroy promoted to Major General for his successes in IT. He was ordered to lift the siege of Fort Belmont KS, and succeeds.
                            BG Carson assumes command of operations in NM and El Paso.

                            ============================================

                            Turn 17 Late December 1861
                            National Morale: 98
                            Victory Points: 868
                            USA Losses: 5310 killed
                            CSA Losses: 4804 killed, 37k POW

                            Events
                            The CSA Nashville Force under Gen Zollicoffer abandons the siege and moves southwest.
                            Fredericksburg VA falls to the 2nd Division.

                            Administrative Decisions
                            Ordered two batteries of field artillery, three batteries of heavy artillery, one supply train, a signal company, and an engineer battalion.

                            Naval Operations
                            The Burnside force’s artillery batteries are all fully formed, but still time to train.

                            Land Operations
                            BG Nelson is ordered to intercept the CSA Nashville Force, but moves too slowly.

                            ================================================== ===

                            A summary of 1861: This period has been like crossing a mud pit. The border regions are wide open, troops and support units are scattered, generals are likewise everywhere but where they are needed, and there is never enough money. For example: the Western Command had no Army-level assets when it was created, and still has no active ones; the heavy artillery I just ordered are intended for it. US Grant (Division commander) has sufficient infantry, but no artillery, cavalry, or support units. Everything is done on a shoestring, and without a Corps structure it is very hard to maneuver.
                            I have managed to get militia units into key border areas, in many cases freeing up Regulars for combat service, and we have secured the area west of the Rockies. MG Milroy has done a commendable job in the IL, despite having only had a single regiment of cavalry to work with until September. The Western Command has secured Cairo and troops are starting to arrive.
                            The Army of NW Virginia has three roughly divisional-sized units, and it has pushed fairly close to Richmond, but it has a crippling shortage of support units until just recently.
                            Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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                            • #15
                              Why does the POW amount keep changing from turn to turn(38, 37, 36, 37,etc). Is it counting dead pows or something like this?


                              Also, come on...screenshots dude.
                              Wisdom is personal

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