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  • #61
    16-30 April 1943

    CBI Theater: China requires no real input from me.
    My forces are moving south down the highway, but progress is very slow..

    I have built up a small squadron of three CAs plus DDs in the Indian Ocean.

    Java, Indonesia, and the Philippines: The Japanese have this area sewed up.

    Australia and the Solomon Islands: Rabaul was taken. I was gratified to see that my heavy bombers had completely knocked out the air strips and port facilities. Now begins the massive task of moving my forward base of operations from Noumea to Rabaul.

    The Combined Fleet jumped the RN CV Task Force and shot it up pretty badly, but it was too late to affect the battle at Rabaul. While the air strips are out, I have over 100 AA guns in place, and plenty of engineers.

    Southern Pacific: Quiet.

    Western Pacific: I have 6 CVs and 12 BBs at Pearl.

    Losses to date: (Not counting the losses at Pearl Harbor; ‘+#’ is the losses in this period.
    Allies 6183 aircraft (+195), 662 ships (+8); including the CAs Chicago, Pensacola, Northampton, Sussex, and the CVL Hermes.

    Japanese 8132 aircraft (+359) and 413 ships (+22), including the BBs Haruma, Kongo, Mutsi, and Yamoto.

    I have ordered several subs to lay mines at Truk. So far no indication of how effective, if at all, this has been.

    A few Corsairs and Hellcats have shown up on the CVs, but otherwise I’m going forward with P-40s and P-39s. I’m continuing converting excess AKs to APs (cargo to troop transport), as I have a considerable surplus of the former, all the more so as LSTs are entering service in great numbers.

    My Plan:
    1) Move my forward base to Rabaul.
    2) Take Kavieng as a secondary base for CVs & BBs from Pearl.
    3) Build up forces and observe if my logistic net requires clearing any islands to the SSE.
    3a) If no line-clearing is needed, Truk is next.
    Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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    • #62
      1-15 May 1943

      CBI Theater: China requires no real input from me.
      My forces reached the outskirts of Prome in Burma.

      I have built up a small squadron of three CAs plus DDs in the Indian Ocean.

      Java, Indonesia, and the Philippines: The Japanese have this area sewed up.

      New Guinea: Heavy fighting around Port Moresby. I have a regiment ‘Jungle artillery’ and hope to send another Aussie bde there soon.

      The Central Pacific: I took Namatari, which is close to Rabaul, and has an excellent road to Kavieng, but further operations were impossible because Rabaul is simply jammed with ships. The process of establishing Rabaul as my forward base is completely in motion, and the facilities are repaired, but for the moment the press of ships and task forces getting sorted out is going to take more time.

      Other factors: I have 6 CVs and 10 BBs at Pearl. I received a ARD, a floating dry dock which I have underway to Rabaul with a heavy escort; when in place it will make my forward base excellent for large ship repairs.The first P-47s are aboard ships heading for the front, and the CVs are receiving Hellcats while CVEs receive Corsairs.

      Losses to date: (Not counting the losses at Pearl Harbor) ‘+#’ is the losses in this period.
      Allies 6268 aircraft (+85), 665 ships (+3); including the CAs Chicago, Pensacola, Northampton, Sussex, and the CVL Hermes.

      Japanese 8368 aircraft (+246) and 421 ships (+8), including the BBs Haruma, Kongo, Mutsi, and Yamoto.


      My Plan:
      1) Kavieng by land via Namatari as a base for CVs & BBs.
      2) Take Manus in the Admiralty Islands to secure my flank and cut off Lae.
      3) Take Truk.
      4) If no line-clearing is needed, Truk is next.
      5) Drive into the Marians.
      6) Drive into the Bonin Islands.
      7) Japan
      Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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      • #63
        16-31 May 1943

        CBI Theater: China requires no real input from me.
        My forces reached the outskirts of Prome, where the IJN is in strength.

        I have built up a small squadron of three CAs plus DDs in the Indian Ocean.

        Java, Indonesia, and the Philippines: The Japanese have this area sewed up.

        New Guinea: Light fighting around Port Moresby.

        The Central Pacific: The congestion at Rabaul having cleared ahead of schedule, I landed forces Kavieng late in this period, supported by BB bombardment. As this is a very large island, a build-up of forces will be needed to take the base. I seized Green and Feri Islands (both Japanese but unoccupied) to secure my flank and to act as an early warning system.

        Based at Rabaul I have two BBs, one BC, and 2 CVEs.

        Other factors: I have 6 CVs and 10 BBs at Pearl.

        Losses to date: (Not counting the losses at Pearl Harbor) ‘+#’ is the losses in this period.
        Allies 6368 aircraft (+100), 674 ships (+9); including the CAs Chicago, Pensacola, Northampton, Sussex, and the CVL Hermes.

        Japanese 8552 aircraft (+216) and 432 ships (+11), including the BBs Haruma, Kongo, Mutsi, Yamoto.


        My Plan:
        1) Take Kavieng as a base for CVs & BBs.
        2) Take Manus in the Admiralty Islands to secure my flank and cut off Lae.
        3) Take Truk.
        4) If no line-clearing is needed, Truk is next.
        5) Drive into the Marians.
        6) Drive into the Bonin Islands.
        7) Japan
        Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
          16-31 May 1943

          CBI Theater: China requires no real input from me.
          My forces reached the outskirts of Prome, where the IJN is in strength.

          I have built up a small squadron of three CAs plus DDs in the Indian Ocean.

          Java, Indonesia, and the Philippines: The Japanese have this area sewed up.

          New Guinea: Light fighting around Port Moresby.

          The Central Pacific: The congestion at Rabaul having cleared ahead of schedule, I landed forces Kavieng late in this period, supported by BB bombardment. As this is a very large island, a build-up of forces will be needed to take the base. I seized Green and Feri Islands (both Japanese but unoccupied) to secure my flank and to act as an early warning system.

          Based at Rabaul I have two BBs, one BC, and 2 CVEs.

          Other factors: I have 6 CVs and 10 BBs at Pearl.

          Losses to date: (Not counting the losses at Pearl Harbor) ‘+#’ is the losses in this period.
          Allies 6368 aircraft (+100), 674 ships (+9); including the CAs Chicago, Pensacola, Northampton, Sussex, and the CVL Hermes.

          Japanese 8552 aircraft (+216) and 432 ships (+11), including the BBs Haruma, Kongo, Mutsi, Yamoto.


          My Plan:
          1) Take Kavieng as a base for CVs & BBs.
          2) Take Manus in the Admiralty Islands to secure my flank and cut off Lae.
          3) Take Truk.
          4) If no line-clearing is needed, Truk is next.
          5) Drive into the Marians.
          6) Drive into the Bonin Islands.
          7) Japan
          This AAR is fun to read. Keep it up! You've done something completely different than what happened in the "real" war. I find this fascinating.

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          • #65
            This AAR is fun to read. Keep it up! You've done something completely different than what happened in the "real" war. I find this fascinating.
            Totally agree with that, and it looks like the tide has turned for the japs, tho they may still have a bite or two left, the resources you now have will see you through the worst they can throw at you.

            You know it would have been great to see how this played out as Japanese, now there is the real test.

            Again an excellent AAR and I look forward to the rest.
            An 18th century Imagi nation blog set in England/

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            • #66
              1-15 June 1943

              CBI Theater: China requires no real input from me.
              My forces reached the outskirts of Prome, where the IJN is in strength. I sent a small flanking force which seized a city to the SE and threatens the IJA supply line, but further offensives are halted while I wait for more troops to move up.

              I have built up a small squadron of three CAs and a CL in the Indian Ocean.

              Java, Indonesia, and the Philippines: The Japanese have this area sewed up.

              New Guinea: Light fighting around Port Moresby.

              The Central Pacific: Kavieng fell with the air strips & port virtually intact. My time was spent consolidating.

              Based at Rabaul I have five BBs, one BC, and 3 CVEs.

              South Pacific: The south pacific is the lifeline of my logistics. At any particular day over a hundred or more task forces travel this area, mostly AKs (Cargo ships) hauling supplies. What appears to have been the entire Combined Fleet sortied into the area and starting sinking ships willy-nilly, including two brand-new CVEs en route to Rabaul. The fleet was dangerously close to my 50k ton floating dry dock, so I sortied with six fleet carriers.

              The two fleets clashed SE of Johnson Island, and the result was an utter rout for the USN. Four CVs sunk and another badly damaged, along with several smaller vessels. Apparently my forces scored little or no damage to the enemy.

              The IJN went on to sink a Landing Ship, Dock (which really hurt), and drowned several battalions of support troops. Besides the terrible loss of life & transports, this will slow my combat operations drastically.

              Other factors: I have 2 CVs and 7 BBs at Pearl. Strategic initiative is back with the Japanese for the immediate future. The ‘long jump’ to Truk is not possible without carrier support.

              Losses to date: (Not counting the losses at Pearl Harbor) ‘+#’ is the losses in this period.
              Allies 6941 aircraft (+573), 720 ships (+56); including the CAs Chicago, Pensacola, Northampton, Sussex, CVL Hermes, CVs Hornet, Lexington, Wasp, Yorktown.

              Japanese 8917 aircraft (+365) and 444 ships (+12), including the BBs Haruma, Kongo, Mutsi, Yamoto.


              My Plan:
              1) Take Manus in the Admiralty Islands to secure my flank and cut off Lae.
              2) Take Truk.
              3) Drive into the Mariana’s.
              4) Drive into the Bonin Islands.
              5) Japan
              Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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              • #67
                ouch that turn sure hurt, especially with not getting some good hits of your own.

                Signs of a good AI, I must admit I was suspecting the AI may have been like the old WIP game and very lethargic, but nope it has a sting.
                An 18th century Imagi nation blog set in England/

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                • #68
                  Wow!

                  I wasn't expecting that. I wonder if the lack of experience by your CV's and air crew's, had anything to do with the lopsided results. I recall, previous posters brought up the subject.

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                  • #69
                    I had my air crews on the CVs in training, which meant at least a year on average. They were amongst my best-trained squadrons.

                    From the IJN TF speed since the battle I know we hit some ships, but man it put the hurt on me. I knew we were looking at losses, but about a third of my fighters were Hellcats.

                    What happened was the IJN slipped between my two TFs and hit each in turn.

                    The AI is extremely good. This is the third time I started feeling like the game was in the bag only to have the AI blitz me unexpectedly.
                    Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
                      I had my air crews on the CVs in training, which meant at least a year on average. They were amongst my best-trained squadrons.

                      From the IJN TF speed since the battle I know we hit some ships, but man it put the hurt on me. I knew we were looking at losses, but about a third of my fighters were Hellcats.

                      What happened was the IJN slipped between my two TFs and hit each in turn.

                      The AI is extremely good. This is the third time I started feeling like the game was in the bag only to have the AI blitz me unexpectedly.
                      Well, I hope this teaches you a lesson, large TF’s are better. You could have had 2 CV’s providing cap and still had 4 on the attack…instead.
                      Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedy. -- Ernest Benn

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Tsar View Post
                        Well, I hope this teaches you a lesson, large TF’s are better. You could have had 2 CV’s providing cap and still had 4 on the attack…instead.
                        Every CV was provideing CAP. 74 Wildcats & Hellcats per TF, on the average, with 3 CLAAs in each TF.

                        The point of two TFs is that the fog of war means that you can't be sure which of the six enemy TFs you're seeing is actually CVs. Six IJN TFs, each with CVs, CVLs, and BBs was what the screen showed. Obviously the recon pilots get excited and over-report-just as they did in real life.

                        So you put out two TFs within mutal supporting range. When the enemy starts launching the radar will ID the real CV TFs.

                        Turns out the IJN CVs were in 3 TFs, which drove between my two and hit them separately. They took heavy aircrew losses, but it worked.

                        I was badly outnumbered. And they performed very well. All my CVs got their flights off.
                        Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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                        • #72
                          16-30 June 1943

                          CBI Theater: China requires no real input from me.
                          Minor fighting on the outskirts of Prome, but I’m still waiting for the rest of my forces. Unrest in India required four more battalions detached for internal security.

                          I have built up a small squadron of three CAs and a CL in the Indian Ocean.

                          New Guinea: The IJA forces around Port Moresby have finally been driven back.

                          The Central Pacific: Rabaul was not completely ready due to the losses of support troops in transit, but I launched the attack on Manus anyway as the only positive to come out the the defeat at Johnson Island is the security of knowing exactly where the Combined Fleet is. The troops hit the beaches on 6-30-43.

                          Based at Rabaul I have five BBs, one BC, and 3 CVEs.

                          South Pacific: My floating dock is now safely within land-based air. The IJN TFs loitered around this area throughout the period, sinking a couple cargo ships but generally working their way west. From their movement I believe that my pilots damaged one or more capitol vessels, forcing the entire force to slow. Small consolation in the wake of the havoc they wreaked, but the floating dry dock has survived so far, and that is worth a great deal. What I have lost is time.

                          Other factors: I have 2 CVs and 7 BBs at Pearl. Strategic initiative is back with the Japanese for the immediate future. The ‘long jump’ to Truk is not possible without carrier support.

                          Losses to date: (Not counting the losses at Pearl Harbor) ‘+#’ is the losses in this period.
                          Allies 7116 aircraft (+175), 741 ships (+21); including the CAs Chicago, Pensacola, Northampton, Sussex, CVL Hermes, CVs Hornet, Lexington, Wasp, Yorktown.

                          Japanese 8917 aircraft (+213) and 460 ships (+16), including the BBs Haruma, Kongo, Mutsi, Yamoto.

                          My Plan:
                          1) Take Manus in the Admiralty Islands to secure my flank and cut off Lae.
                          2) Take Truk.
                          3) Drive into the Marianas.
                          4) Drive into the Bonin Islands.
                          5) Japan
                          Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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                          • #73
                            Admiral Rimmer,

                            You got Midwayed.

                            Time for a cold-eye review of "tactics" (it is a tricky game and there are no fast victories , at least, not until you get a handle on the AI methods).

                            Have you been sending forces to CBI and New Guinea as well to pressure Japanese forces elsewhere? If you simply pour resourvces into one sector the AI will concentrate there.

                            Did you have your submarines out on reconnaissance near Truk and other bases? Along the approach routes to your own bases?

                            Did you have PBY/land based recon search arcs set up from your land bases covering the approach routes? Adequate land based air forces to attack anything that came in range?

                            Did you plan your own fleet movements between Pearl Harbour and the SW Pacific to follow routes outside the range of Japanese search aircraft (Betty, Mavis, Emily)? Very long legs on those birds.

                            The computer will use submarine screens and long range search a/c to spot and then vector the fleet onto any spotted TFs? You should be sending your own forces very wide to the east, then south towards Samoa, then sweeping around to the south near New Caledonia to keep out of range of the Japanese search areas and approach under your own land based air (B25 and B26 are your best friends).

                            Finally, were you operating under your own land based air umbrella?

                            Historically the USN stayed comparitively close to land based air until the combination of land based and CV based forces had gutted the Japanese naval air arm and the land bases. It would be 1944 before the large carrier fleets (11+ carriers, 1000 and more a/c) began pushing into the central Pacific (Marianas) without having land based bombers available as well.

                            Just as important the Japanese attack a/c have longer legs than most of the US models so they can launch from outside your own effective range (your ripostes are not nearly as effective).

                            Its a fun game but once you have a couple of games under your belt you'll gain a better understanding of what is required to take on the Japanese AI. This new version has some good improvements over the older version (Grigsby does make good games) which I am working through myself.
                            Last edited by The Purist; 02 Apr 13, 12:12.
                            The Purist

                            Words ought to be a little wild, for they are the assault of thoughts on the unthinking - John Maynard Keynes.

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                            • #74
                              Adm. Rimmer - So post-battle are you able to maintain contact with the IJN? Are your land based AC able to continue to attack them? Can you move subs into their path? Without a map in front of me I can't know for sure what exactly the situation looks like.

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                              • #75
                                Ewwww good idea.

                                take some screen shots, convert them to .png files and they'll post nicely.

                                By the way,... just how close to the "front" was that floating drydock anyway?

                                Second point to note in looking for the silver lining,.... perhaps the Japanese carrier air took some heavy losses. That's a good thing as it takes Japane much longer to produced fully trained carrier pilots/crews.
                                The Purist

                                Words ought to be a little wild, for they are the assault of thoughts on the unthinking - John Maynard Keynes.

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