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  • #31
    Originally posted by Baztanz View Post
    You have got to be wondering what the AI is doing with the Combined fleet, if anything????
    The CVs were all over the place-from the Indian Ocean down near Milne Bay and on up to Alaska. As ships are at sea they start showing wear; for example I ran the Prince of Wales and attached ships from Sydney to Guadacanal, up to around Russel Island, over towards Port Morsby, and then back to Sydney as they tanks were getting dry.

    The PoW spent four days under repairs afterwards; basic maintenance accumulated from the time at sea.

    If those CVs ran that far & that hard, they would need full-scale overhauls, just as they did in real life.

    Plus, the computer only tells me what ships I've sunk, not what I've damaged. we bagged two BBs, so I'm betting we hit more. This would mean they would be laid up in a major port for repairs. The stupid accidental fire on the Pennslyvania took it out for 90-odd days of repair.

    So my guess is that they are getting repaired, overhauled, or waiting their turn, as only a couple Japanese ports can handle the big ships.

    But that's just a guess. The AI is extremely aggressive. I've been white-knuckling it on this Shortland operation; I'm down to one CV and four CVEs in the area, and two of the six fleet cariers at Pearl are undergoing refits to add AA guns & better damage control (historical upgrades).
    Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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    • #32
      16-30 November 1942

      CBI Theater: China requires no real input from me.
      The IJA is moving troops around the border area, but their intention is unclear. I am shifting forces around for a raid south.

      Java, Indonesia, and the Philippines: The Japanese have this area sewed up.

      Australia and the Solomon Islands: There was heavy fighting at Port Moresby, and Buna was hit by two amphibious assaults; the first was driven off, the second got troops ashore.
      After ten days of heavy fighting and constant air attacks Shortlands was secured, and the Slot is fully in US control. The drive can now more to the next step overland, which is good because transport losses have been heavy and my air units are depleted. The Japanese are likewise spent-in the last days of the Shortland fighting the raids from Rabaul consisted of a half-dozen planes.

      Based at Sydney I have a CV, six BBs, a BC, seven CAs, plus supporting vessels. My fuel reserve is small but sufficient. At Noumea I now have four CVEs which will be deployed with 4 CLs and supporting DDs as an offensive task force.

      Southern Pacific: The IJN was still quiet.

      Western Pacific: I have 6 CVs and 11 BBs at Pearl. I received my first LST at the end of this period.

      Losses to date: (Not counting the losses at Pearl Harbor; ‘+#' is the losses in this period.
      Allies 4307 aircraft (+225), 588 ships (+17); the largest being two CAs, the Northampton and the Chicago.

      Japanese 4847 aircraft (+251) and 259 ships (+8), the largest being the BBs Kongo and Haruma.
      Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Baztanz View Post
        You have got to be wondering what the AI is doing with the Combined fleet, if anything????
        Not anymore. They just came south and put the hurt on me big-time.
        Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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        • #34
          1-15 December 1942

          CBI Theater: China requires no real input from me.
          I am prepareing a major move toward Akyab to keep the IJA off balance.

          I have built up a small squadron of two CAs and two CLs plus DDs in the Indian Ocean.

          Java, Indonesia, and the Philippines: The Japanese have this area sewed up.

          Australia and the Solomon Islands: The airstrips at Buna and Shortland are operational. I am sending a force overland from Shortland to Torokima, but it will take weeks to make it through the jungle.

          After the savage fighting at Shortland I was hoping for a quiet period to effect repairs and bring up replacement aircraft, as I have been losing them far too fast. It was not to be...

          The Combined Fleet sortied into this area, scattering my support vessels and sinking a transport TF. The loss of ships was bad, but what worse were the two AA regiments, USMC defense battalion, RAF construction regiment, and four battalions of US infantry which were also lost. They were destined for Shortlands along with several thousand long tons of supplies; this will serious impact my operations there. I have a surface TF, my CVE TF, and a small (One CV) air combat TF trying to seek revenge.

          Based at Sydney I have a CV, six BBs, a BC, seven CAs, plus supporting vessels. My fuel reserve is small but sufficient. At Noumea I now have four CVEs which will be deployed with 4 CLs and supporting DDs as an offensive task force.

          Southern Pacific: The IJN was still quiet.

          Western Pacific: I have 6 CVs and 11 BBs at Pearl.

          Losses to date: (Not counting the losses at Pearl Harbor; ‘+# is the losses in this period.
          Allies 4421 aircraft (+114), 602 ships (+14); the largest being two CAs, the Northampton and the Chicago.

          Japanese 5024 aircraft (+227) and 268 ships (+9), the largest being the BBs Kongo and Haruma.
          Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
            1-15 December 1942

            The Combined Fleet sortied into this area, scattering my support vessels and sinking a transport TF. The loss of ships was bad, but what worse were the two AA regiments, USMC defense battalion, RAF construction regiment, and four battalions of US infantry which were also lost. They were destined for Shortlands along with several thousand long tons of supplies; this will serious impact my operations there. I have a surface TF, my CVE TF, and a small (One CV) air combat TF trying to seek revenge.
            Ouch.
            "The blade itself incites to deeds of violence".

            Homer


            BoRG

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Captain General View Post
              Ouch.
              Yeah, I was stunned. Of the 14 ships lost in that period, twelve were in that task force. Normally if transports get hit the others pick up survivors, and all you lose is equipment. But these were a complete wipe.

              A couple turns into the new period a combination of my one CV, a LOT of land-based air, and a TF built around three RN BBs went up against an IJN surface TF, and sank the Yamato, at the cost of quite a few planes and a fair amount of damage to the BBs (how bad I won't know until they limp back to Sydney).

              Its still a win for the Japanese, but at least they paid for part of it.
              Last edited by Arnold J Rimmer; 26 Mar 13, 03:16.
              Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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              • #37
                Well if you are hurting you have to believe the Japs will be as well and the loss of the Yamato will be a biggy.

                Can you repair the RN BB's in Australia or do they need to go to the US?
                An 18th century Imagi nation blog set in England/

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Baztanz View Post
                  Well if you are hurting you have to believe the Japs will be as well and the loss of the Yamato will be a biggy.

                  Can you repair the RN BB's in Australia or do they need to go to the US?

                  As it turns out the Royal Sovereign will have to leave the theater for repairs in NYC, will be out a year+. The other two only needed a few days in Sydney's facilities. The Royal wasn't damaged that bad, except for a turret that was wrecked.

                  The IJN only has one real good repair port; on map I have four, so it will take them longer to repair the big vessels.
                  Last edited by Arnold J Rimmer; 26 Mar 13, 03:17.
                  Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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                  • #39
                    16-31 December 1942

                    CBI Theater: China requires no real input from me.
                    I am still working on a move toward Akyab to keep the IJA off balance.
                    At the end of this period the Chindits arrive in India. This present an interesting option, as I have plenty of DC-3s.
                    I sent my squadron to harass IJN shipping near Akyab, and it sank five transports, but encountered a minefield which seriously damaged two CLs and a DD.

                    I have built up a small squadron of two CAs plus DDs in the Indian Ocean.

                    Java, Indonesia, and the Philippines: The Japanese have this area sewed up.

                    Australia and the Solomon Islands: Part of my overland force reached Torokima, but the rest won’t be in position until early January.
                    The first Spitfires saw combat over Port Moresby.

                    My response forces (A TF with one CV, and a surface Task Force with the RN BBs Valiant, Royal Sovereign, and Ramilles) clashed with IJN forces. All three of my BBs were hit, but only Royal Sovereign took serious damage; it will have to leave the theater for repairs to its forward turret, and will be gone a year. However, the Yamoto was sunk.

                    Repair ships (ARs) reached Noumea, my main port for amphib operations, and greatly enhanced repair operations.

                    The Royal Navy withdrew my last CV in this area; my CVL is still being repaired.

                    Based at Sydney I have five BBs, a BC, seven CAs, plus supporting vessels. My fuel reserve is small but sufficient. At Noumea I have four CVEs.

                    Southern Pacific: The IJN was still quiet.

                    Western Pacific: I have 6 CVs and 11 BBs at Pearl.

                    Losses to date: (Not counting the losses at Pearl Harbor; ‘+#' is the losses in this period.
                    Allies 4597 aircraft (+176), 604 ships (+2); including two CAs, the Northampton and the Chicago.

                    Japanese 5461 aircraft (+437) and 284 ships (+16), including the BBs Haruma, Kongo and Yamoto.

                    I am considering sending half my USN CVs to Sydney, but the idea of splitting my striking down does not sit well with me.
                    Last edited by Arnold J Rimmer; 26 Mar 13, 05:26.
                    Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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                    • #40
                      How are submarine operations being conducted and what have been the results from any attacks? I'm guessing, probably not much success. Have IJN subs given you any trouble?

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                      • #41
                        Since the Japanese are losing more stuff than you, you are definitely winning. The Japanese can not win a war of attrition against Allies. You only have to keep your losses fairly even to beat them in the long run. I'm assuming you have a nefarious plan for all those ships building up at Pearl? One strategy I liked was sending a group of BB's to enemy bases and doing a shore bombardment. You can completely devastate an air base that way. To the point where it will take them weeks/months to get it back up and running.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Fitz505 View Post
                          How are submarine operations being conducted and what have been the results from any attacks? I'm guessing, probably not much success. Have IJN subs given you any trouble?
                          Individual subs are represented, as with any other sort of ship. I chose the option of having the AI conduct sub operations, which means I deploy subs to home bases and the computer assigns them patrol areas.

                          The AI assigns them to patrol zones based on shipping traffic & chokepoints. At the moment at least half my boats are short-range subs which don't accomplish much, and they all have the historically crappy torpedos (which will change when it did in RL).

                          It looks like my subs have sunk 22 transports/cargo vessels and one patrol boat. If they have damaged vessels, and I'm sure they have, that won't show up-the fog of war prevents that.

                          I've lost 20 subs, however 14 were sunk in air attacks on ports (11 in Darwin, 3 in Manila). Quite of few are currently laid up for repairs, particularly the USN S and Dutch K boats, which take wear very quickly (age).

                          IJN subs aren't showing any kills, although I know they hit two CLs in the Solomons-one's back in service, the other is still under repair. And losses to mines could be from mine-laying subs.

                          The IJN uses their subs for scouting, too, which is a major problem for me. I have to decide what split for my search planes: ASW or surface search. I have two squadrons of rigid airships for ASW on the West Coast, and wish I had more-they are amazing.

                          I haven't sunk any IJN subs (although they've lost 8 midget subs). My ASW patrols have attacked them, so some have been damaged.
                          Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by StellarRat View Post
                            Since the Japanese are losing more stuff than you, you are definitely winning. The Japanese can not win a war of attrition against Allies. You only have to keep your losses fairly even to beat them in the long run. I'm assuming you have a nefarious plan for all those ships building up at Pearl? One strategy I liked was sending a group of BB's to enemy bases and doing a shore bombardment. You can completely devastate an air base that way. To the point where it will take them weeks/months to get it back up and running.
                            Why, yes, yes I do...OK, not really. Truth is, I'm afraid to committ them. As long as I have them intact, the Combined Fleet has to be cautious.

                            As much of a plan is this: take Rabaul, and then try to lure the IJN CVs into action north of Rabaul where my CVs will have land-based air in support.

                            I won't get any replacement CVs in '42, and the pickings are slim in '43. So I'm waiting and upgrading the ships (the historical refits) and CLAAs trickle in.

                            But in the main I'm a land-based strategy, using my plentiful land-based air and masses of avabition support units and engineers to build 'island CVs'.

                            I'm more aggressive with RN ships because every heavy unit (except the Hermes, PoW and Repluse) are slated to withdraw by the end of '43. And CVEs-I get plenty of those.

                            But I'm not committing my CVs until something big is on the line. I would if Midway was seriously threatened, and I sent BBs out when Canton and Baker Islands were under attack, but not otherwise. The AI is damned sharp.
                            Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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                            • #44
                              1-15 January 1943

                              CBI Theater: China requires no real input from me.
                              There has been heavy skirmishing north of Akyab. More civil unrest required another battalion deployed to the interior of India.

                              I have built up a small squadron of two CAs plus DDs in the Indian Ocean.

                              Java, Indonesia, and the Philippines: The Japanese have this area sewed up.

                              Australia and the Solomon Islands: All my forces have reached Torokima, and we are assembling supplies.

                              A heavy IJN surface TF swept into the area as escorts for a landing force aimed at Lunga on Guadalcanal. This is especially bad as I stripped off most of Lunga’s garrison to help with the drive on Torokima. I rushed a BB task force into the area; a heavy BB-BB action resulted in the HMB Ramillies being badly damaged; to judge from the IJN TF’s speed, they were hurt as well. The landing made it ashore, but the heavy ground defenses have held. I am rushing a Fiji brigade to the area.

                              Based at Sydney I have a CVL, four BBs, a BC, plus supporting vessels. My fuel reserve is small but sufficient. At Noumea I have six CVEs.

                              Southern Pacific: The IJN was still quiet.

                              Western Pacific: I have 6 CVs and 11 BBs at Pearl. My first LCIs arrived.

                              Losses to date: (Not counting the losses at Pearl Harbor; ‘+#’ is the losses in this period.
                              Allies 4775 aircraft (+178), 611 ships (+7); including the CAs Northampton and Chicago.

                              Japanese 5729 aircraft (+278) and 297 ships (+13), including the BBs Haruma, Kongo and Yamoto.

                              I am clearly ahead in the area of aircraft and heavy unit attrition, but as the surprise attack at Lunga showed, i am not in as strong of a position as I thought I had been.

                              Frankly, I'm a bit unnerved.
                              Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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                              • #45
                                You are dealing with an AI,... your actions will not make it cautious or aggressive. The only way to defeat the Japanese carrier fleet is to commit your own. You can lose 2 or 3 or even 4 carriers to everyone Japan loses and still have a carrier fleet.

                                Your shipping losses are more than twice Japan's and this will not change until you commit. Sinking battleships does not hurt Japane much,...get their carriers and with them their carrier air groups. Then start raiding their land bases with carrier groups supported by your land based air.

                                Deny the seas to Japan and you be able to start moving forward. You can't do this without losing heavy kit.

                                Get stuck in!
                                The Purist

                                Words ought to be a little wild, for they are the assault of thoughts on the unthinking - John Maynard Keynes.

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