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  • I need a new wargame

    Either tactical or grand strategy.

    I love the Combat Mission series (well... at least the WW2 ones, CMSF was fairly disappointing), but it's so damn hard to find people to play with tcp-ip and I don't have the patience for PBEM.

    So ya... any great wargames out there I don't know about?... preferably with either good AI or lots of people playing them online. Even if it's popular and well known please recommend because I don't know all that many games in the genre, mostly just CM and West Front/EF/EFII.

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    I haven't played CM for several years now but I might be able to play you tcp/ip some time. PM me if you're up for it.

    Good AI is hard to come by. The 'Airborne Assault' games ('Highway to the Reich' and 'Conquest of the Aegean') are pretty good and play out in what the designers call 'continuous-pausible time'. 'The Operational Art of War III' seems to have reasonable AI but I haven't played it enough to say for sure. You could look at the 'Close Combat' games - either the original issues or the more recent revamps. All of these games are published by Matrix .... with whom I have no association.
    Signing out.

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    • #3
      You could also check out the Blitz for opponents. I prefer PBEM. But there used to be a lot of TCP/IP play. Perhaps there still is. http://www.theblitz.org/

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      • #4
        In the end, you ONLY real choices are to go with Panther Games which at least punish indecisive click frenzy, or intentionally avoid play ANY games where it is you vs the AI.

        There are NO decent AI games, only games so complicated you are too busy with a game that is so overly micromanaged you haven't time to notice the AI never does anything all that worthy.

        Any game that allows decent hotseat mode is essentially no different that doing it the old fashioned way ie solo like it always was with old style board games.

        Steel Panthers solo as both sides is great.
        Close Combat vs another is easy to play considering how human opponents are easy to find
        TOAW3 is basically every board game you can think of and played solo is more or less the same thing as a board game played solo.
        Decisive Battles series is much the same thing.

        Essentially any turn based design with hot seat can be great if you just keep the AI out of the party.

        If it's real time, it won't be any better than crap vs the AI, as anyone with an iota of skill and common sense knows playing the AI is the same as masturbation. But hey, some like that sort of thing And not all porn is equal
        Life is change. Built models for decades.
        Not sure anyone here actually knows the real me.
        I didn't for a long time either.

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        • #5
          I dunno I thought the Achtung Panzer:Kharkov game had very impressive AI, but the interface and the fact that battles are limited to 9 platoons total (!) turned me off.

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          • #6
            Matrix's Operation Barbarossa is not bad if you can ignore the toytown graphics, that city is supposed to be Stalingrad..




            I reviewed it and some other games here-
            http://www.thefewgoodmen.com/thefgmf...ION-BARBAROSSA

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            • #7
              I have Operation Barbarossa.

              It's ok, not going to unseat Panzer General yet. But it is likely going to be ok with a year's worth of polishing.
              Life is change. Built models for decades.
              Not sure anyone here actually knows the real me.
              I didn't for a long time either.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Cerber0s View Post
                ..I love the Combat Mission series but it's so damn hard to find people to play with tcp-ip and I don't have the patience for PBEM...
                Huh? Are you saying pbem is slow? I've played 114 Cmbb pbem games in the past 5 months, that's the trick to avoid getting bored, take on a whole bunch of people at once and there'll always be pbem files in your inbox..
                Here's a link to a tourney I'm in, I've finished 37 of its 46 pbem games in the past month-

                http://www.thefewgoodmen.com/thefgmf...hread.php?3293

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Poor Old Spike View Post
                  Huh? Are you saying pbem is slow? I've played 114 Cmbb pbem games in the past 5 months, that's the trick to avoid getting bored, take on a whole bunch of people at once and there'll always be pbem files in your inbox..
                  Here's a link to a tourney I'm in, I've finished 37 of its 46 pbem games in the past month-

                  http://www.thefewgoodmen.com/thefgmf...hread.php?3293
                  114 in five months!! That's going it a bit! I ran a similar schedule for a little while whilst active on what is now 'Gamesquad' and totally burned myself out for 'Combat Mission' to the extent that I still can't raise the enthusiasm to play competitively.
                  Signing out.

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                  • #10
                    Checked out Matrix Games yet? There might be something of interest there for you.

                    I'm a little disappointed that Mad Minute Games didn't keep up it's Civil War series.
                    "Take the risk of thinking for yourself, much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way." - Christopher Hitchens

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by globetrotter View Post
                      Checked out Matrix Games yet? There might be something of interest there for you.

                      I'm a little disappointed that Mad Minute Games didn't keep up it's Civil War series.

                      Actually some of the guys from Mad Minute made their own company and just relased Scourge of War: Gettysburg its basically the next game in the series and its as fun as the originals.

                      Thanks for looking!!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by globetrotter View Post
                        Checked out Matrix Games yet? There might be something of interest there for you.

                        I'm a little disappointed that Mad Minute Games didn't keep up it's Civil War series.


                        Tried that for our single post thread starter.

                        http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forum...83&postcount=2
                        Signing out.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Full Monty View Post
                          114 in five months!! That's going it a bit! I ran a similar schedule for a little while whilst active on what is now 'Gamesquad' and totally burned myself out for 'Combat Mission' to the extent that I still can't raise the enthusiasm to play competitively.
                          Yeah I have to take layoffs from CM myself once in a while to recharge my batteries.
                          At the moment I'm going all out to become FGM ladder champion and that's the motivation that drives me..
                          "There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter"- Ernest Hemingway

                          PS- Regarding other games, there's a review section here, some of which I reviewed myself-

                          http://www.thefewgoodmen.com/thefgmf...he-FGM-Reviews

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