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  • #16
    Originally posted by Siberian HEAT
    As they said in Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back;

    "You're like a child. What've I been telling you? You gotta do the safe picture. Then you can do the art picture. But then sometimes you gotta do the payback picture because your friend says you owe him. "

    Quake 4 is the "safe picture." I couldn't spell out the analogy in my article, but this is what I was thinking when I wrote it.


    Hahahaha that's perfect!!

    For us Firefly/Serenity fans, I think that's our last hope. We have to hope Joss Whedon makes a ton of money on... *sigh* the "Wonder Woman" movie, so that he can get away with making another Serenity movie.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Doctor Sinister
      Far Cry did!

      Dr. S.
      Did not. I loved Far Cry. It was a damned fun game and horribly unappreciated when it came to sustaining mods, but it wasn't really different from any other FPS. You still went from Point A to Point B to accomplish Objective X. You just got two or three paths to take.

      Deus Ex went farther with that style in 2000.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by jaegertech
        Did not. I loved Far Cry. It was a damned fun game and horribly unappreciated when it came to sustaining mods, but it wasn't really different from any other FPS. You still went from Point A to Point B to accomplish Objective X. You just got two or three paths to take.

        Deus Ex went farther with that style in 2000.
        System Shock 2 (And 1) went tons farther than Deus Ex too.

        Not to say Deus Ex wasn't awesome.

        Also apparently tons is now a unit of distance.
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        • #19
          I've played a few more hours of multiplay to try to give the game as much of a chance as possible, 16 player max servers just aren't cutting it for me. If Id/Raven had hoped this engine would be the end-all for multiplayer, I doubt it will happen. Personally, UT2004 still seems more versatile than this engine - has more modes, seems smoother in close combat, more players, and (from what I've seen) more refined maps.

          One of the things I really liked about Quake II was the gritty, dingy backgrounds with simple player models. While I do enjoy UT from time to time, its biggest drawback is that there is TOO much color and vibrancy in many of the maps. Q4 is the same way...with all the pretty colors flashing around, it is hard to see what is going on. Once big firefights start, it looks like the Fourth of July!

          Any other Quake 4 players out there care to comment on multiplayer?
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          • #20
            Originally posted by jaegertech
            Did not. I loved Far Cry. It was a damned fun game and horribly unappreciated when it came to sustaining mods, but it wasn't really different from any other FPS. You still went from Point A to Point B to accomplish Objective X. You just got two or three paths to take.

            Deus Ex went farther with that style in 2000.
            Can't comment on Deus X, but I stand by my love of Far Cry - having gone back to "clear" a level I would find entire areas that I hadn't covered, and had no need to cover - certainly no lazy level design there.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Doctor Sinister
              Can't comment on Deus X, but I stand by my love of Far Cry - having gone back to "clear" a level I would find entire areas that I hadn't covered, and had no need to cover - certainly no lazy level design there.

              Dr. S.
              I'm suprised there hasn't been a sequel announced for Far Cry yet. Although I guess it didn't sell as well as it should have (I'm assuming), it certainly got good reviews and they did release a critically acclaimed console version.

              Game editorials call for "new" and "fresh" games that aren't rehashes of previous genre's or games...but it seems "fresh" games like Far Cry don't get the credit or sales they deserve when compared to sequels and rehashes like HL2, Doom 3, Civilization 4, Age of Empires III, Quake 4....etc.
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              • #22
                That's the thing, editorials are all complaining about lack of innovation now and then, but then when something innovating comes along they rarely push it they way they should, and on top of that, completely removed from their faults is the fact that just like movies, people are often drawn to "safe" titles. All the games that are really popular are sequels of games that DID revolutionize things, so people still remember that innovation and figure the next title has to be just as worth it. Unforunately, much like movies and books, the more in a series, the lower the quality generally.
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                • #23
                  good review. i've only played alittle, but i like it, but then again, i liked DOOM3 for the first couple of hours.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by jayedub7423
                    good review. i've only played alittle, but i like it, but then again, i liked DOOM3 for the first couple of hours.
                    Curious if you gotten through more of the game? I'm really interested to hear how others liked this one. As you can tell, I was pretty disappointed LOL.
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                    • #25
                      this will be the next game i will try to beat. between hockey season and cancelling WoW for City of Villains, i havent given the game much time.

                      i played Quake 1 when it came out on a friends pc back in the day, but never to completion. i never played quake 2 till i bought the Quake pack that had all the games and expansions in one, which is very cool.

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                      • #26
                        well, i have almost finished the game after a couple of sittings. i say almost because the game keeps dragging on, and i am so freaking bored now, i've decided to go watch a movie with my daughter so i dont feel like i wasted my day.


                        i really love the graphics of the game, but i still favor the source engine more.

                        this game cant figure out if it wants to be Quake or if it wants to be Doom!

                        i really thought the first half of the game was kick ass. but the boredom began to set in just after getting the Strogg makeover. and for two reasons really; the levels start looking the same, and the tasks you must do are the same thing over, and over, and over, and over.....go here, turn this on, activate that, open this door, escort him, protect that guy, argh!!! these are the two reasons i hate Doom3.

                        the same formula that doom used is the same that quake uses for the most part, and for that reason, the game is just too long. the tedium of the tasks, coupled with the non-variety of the levels seem to make this game drag on.

                        again, i really loved the first half of this game. and the weapons are just kick ass too! they feel beefy, not like the weak ass crap that was in Doom3.

                        when a game feels like work rather than fun to complete, then it really feels like a waste of time.

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                        • #27
                          There is NO WAY that a game this hyped should be so tedious and dull. Some of the tasks are literally as mundane as my joke about getting a box of floppies. Wait until you see the end...

                          Our forefathers died to give us freedom, not free stuff.

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                          • #28
                            well, beat quake 4 tonight. take out the marines, change the strogg to demons. and the game feels just like doom3. boredom starts to set in after awhile, and makes it hard to continue on when the levels begin to look the same, and the missions start repeating.

                            i'll say it again, the first part of this game had me on the edge of my seat, i really loved it!

                            and i really think that boss battles are really a thing of the past. but i'm not sure how you would end a game like this. it's time for the arcade action style shooters to evolve a bit in my opinon.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Siberian HEAT
                              I put down my web duties long enough to get through the latest Quake title. See what you think.

                              Quake 4 Review
                              Great review...does anyone know if you can do multiplayer via LAN with only 1 copy of the game, like the "good old days" of UT and Q3?
                              Last edited by madDdog67; 15 Nov 05, 10:43.
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