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  • Taranis
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    Originally posted by Cantata View Post
    I own two copies of Battlelore (required for the free Epic Rules expansion), but one copy can take you a long way with the forthcoming expansions. It can be played with 2 or more players, 2-vs-1 in your case, but this can be very fun and challenging.
    I believe after the epic rules are released (free PDF) that DoW is planing on selling a bundle that includes a game board, extra lore tokens and a paper version of the epic rules. I haven't seen anything about price yet but I can't image that it will be very expansive.

    EDIT: This is from the Battlore Blog: http://blog.battlelore.com/en/
    All that is required to play these first Epic adventures is a second board, some additional Lore tokens and a friend to play with.

    This expansion will initially be released Online, free of charge, to all registered users of the game, sometime during the month of March.

    A paper-based version that includes a 2nd game board and some additional Lore tokens, along with more new Epic adventures, will follow in May, and be available at retail as well as on our web site.
    Last edited by Taranis; 07 Mar 07, 21:34.

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  • Cantata
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    Taranis hit the nail on the head for what you specified. I own two copies of Battlelore (required for the free Epic Rules expansion), but one copy can take you a long way with the forthcoming expansions. It can be played with 2 or more players, 2-vs-1 in your case, but this can be very fun and challenging.

    Battlelore is medieval/fantasy, you get lots of plastic miniatures, and all the game's components are top quality. The battles can be played in 1-2 hours, and can be conventional or magic-based engagements. There are even powerful creatures, such as a giant spider, earth elemental and hill giant... so far.

    There is somewhat of an RPG aspect as well, in that you can have a certain number of points to allocate to a War Council, usually 6 points total. There are 4 different Battlelords (Rouge, Wizard, Cleric and Warrior), as well as one Commander, that you can assign these points to, which correlate to experience levels. Each point equals one level. You can build a war council anyway you wish, including any or all of these characters at various levels. This in turn gives you access to special abilities/powers to be used on the field of battle.

    What truly makes Battlelore great, along with any other game from the Commands and Colors system, is that it is designed so that you can basically create any kind of battle you want. The terrain tiles can be laid out in any manner and fashion to create unlimited battlefields to play on, and you can mix and match units however it suits you. The unit mix includes archers, foot soldiers, cavalry, dwarves and goblins, plus the afore mentioned creatures.

    Days of Wonder will be adding to the game over time via expansion packs (for more info see Memoir '44 for examples, also from DoW, another good choice, BTW). The Battlelore expansions will include new rules for bigger games (Epic Rules), as well as new unit packs and new creatures. The best part about this is that we aren't talking about a "collectable" game here. You don't have to buy everything to have fun with this game system, only those things you want.

    A&A minis and similar fair are collectable (more rare units = winner), in the same way Magic the Gathering is collectable ...*shudder*... and I would not recommend it for that reason alone. I will say that it looks interesting, but I grew tired of keeping up with the Jones's long ago.

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  • Guest's Avatar
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    My favorite WW2 game is Advanced Tobruk, but the full games can cost a lot (and you get a lot, to be sure), so to find out if you think you'll like it, try the Basic Games. They're less than thirty bucks each with VERY simple rules that can still make for a fun game.
    http://www.criticalhit.com/catalog/p...4f030b3be24790
    or
    http://www.criticalhit.com/catalog/p...4f030b3be24790

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  • Taranis
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    Originally posted by DeadlyVortex View Post
    I've looked some more into HeroScape some more, and it looks at least semi-decent. I've also looked into Memoir 44, and i really like that look of that game, except taht it isn't suited for 3 players well at all. but yea. I like both fantasy and realistic, it doesn't really matter. i just want something that i'm able to get into, but is very deep! I've looked at the game BattleLore (just released by the makers of Mem'44) and such, but it's made for 2 players
    The Game 'Doom' is also something i've looked into ....Grognard is a hard site to navigate
    I would recommend Battlelore its everything you're looking for. In march Days of Wonder releasing the Epic rules (free PDF) which incorporates 2 game boards and up to 6 people can play albeit as 2 teams, but still it should be fun. This summer they are releasing the first game supplement "Call to Arms"
    this game expansion will feature a army deployments system thats sounds very interesting. And of course they will be releasing new unit specialist packs around the same time, if your looking for a game which has strategy but not to overwhelming to learn and offers products to collect to improve you're enjoyment of the game then Battlelore is what you want!

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    My son and I have played Heroclix, Mechwarrior, and manty others, and we landed on Axis and Allies Minis. We love it. We also enjoy Memoir 44 - the differences are "board game" (M44) vs Tabletop wargame (AAM)

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  • Martok
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    Here are my favorite tabletop games:

    Warhammer 40,000. It offers a wealth of choices on armies to play, tactics to employ, and varations on the basic theme which allows for hours of enjoyable gameplay. However, it is expensive to get into, not to mention time consuming to paint the figures and build a decent force. And no real men play Eldar.

    Mechwarrior. This is the plastic version of Battletech, which I could never get into, but Mechwarrior is fast and usually fun. Latetly the designers have been introducing magic into the mix, veiled not so cleverly under the guise of advanced technology, which detracts from game play. But the game can be played within an hour out of the box, and for about 100 bucks you are off and running.

    Mage Knight. Made by the same folks who do Mechwarrior, this came first and is a fantasy table top game without all the hassles of Warhammer Fantasy Battles. Figures come pre-painted.

    My son and I play Hero-scape, but the game play is lame. He got bored after about two months, so now we have this big box if figs gathering dust.

    Stay away from Dream Blade. WOTC is trying to get into the tabletop figures market, but this game is poorly designed and will not hold your interest.

    There may be others, but I gotta go.

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  • Justin
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    If you are in to table top WARGAMES I would recommend checking out Operation World War 2 by Alzo Zero.

    The rules can be downloaded for free from their website (www.alzozero.com).

    The game simulates platoon to company level combat in World War 2.

    You can use plastic 1/72 figures for the game, which are very cheap and with $100 you should manage to get enough troops and tanks to keep the three of you gaming for a long time.

    The game system is fairly easy to learn (most of the rulebook is army lists) and you can play platoon level games in a couple of hours.

    All three of you can play at the same time (usually in the format of 2 against 1) which suits your needs as well.

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  • Barbarossa
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    Originally posted by DeadlyVortex View Post
    Hello all, I'm new to the forums here (as you can no doubt tell by my post count) and i have a question for you all. I have long been interested in strategy games, and love playing them on computer and such, but i now want to get a Tabletop Strategy game. I want one that is fairly easy to get into, and doesn't require more than $100 to get a VERY good set-up that at least 3 people can play with. I went to a local comic book store (TBS comics) and asked them which i should look into, but the salesman there was a complete jerk that did absolutely nothing to help except point at some of the boxes they had and telling me the name, which i could have read on the box without his help.

    The type of game i am looking for is one where you must use strategy. However, i don't want to have to study for hours on end just to understand HOW to play it. Risk is NOT what I am looking for. That game is based on nothing more than luck of the roll, and strategy is merely an illusion in that game. (At least, thats how i feel about it after having played it 10+ times. i realize many of you may well disagree with me, and thats fine)
    I want something that i can add more to (as in buy more things to make the games better) over time. Something where each game can be completely different.
    I enjoy realistic settings, and Axis and Allies looked like it may be interesting, but I also love fantasy settings. So far the only thing i have been able to find that looks like it may suit my wants and desires is HeroScape. It's available at your local Wal-Mart, and it looks easily upgraded and such, while giving you plenty to work with with an easy investment. However, the game looks like it is aimed at kids, and because of that, something tells me that the gameplay and strategy would not be deep enough.

    Ok....so now that I have said all of that ....any suggestions?

    if there are no good 3 player games, i'll settle with a really good 2 player game for the record. I just know that i have 2 friends that would want to play
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    Also, i know that this isn't a RPG site, but if you know of a game that fits most of the above qualities and is a RPG, i would love to hear your suggestions for it also
    You say "tabletop" but seem to mean "boardgames"? For tabletop, see my new posting.

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  • rsjrev
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    Originally posted by DeadlyVortex View Post
    I've looked some more into HeroScape some more, and it looks at least semi-decent. I've also looked into Memoir 44, and i really like that look of that game, except taht it isn't suited for 3 players well at all. but yea. I like both fantasy and realistic, it doesn't really matter. i just want something that i'm able to get into, but is very deep! I've looked at the game BattleLore (just released by the makers of Mem'44) and such, but it's made for 2 players
    The Game 'Doom' is also something i've looked into ....Grognard is a hard site to navigate
    Mem'44, or BattleCry (civil war version) are great first games. I taught my 8 and 10 year old kids Battle Cry in an hour. We got around the 3 player limitation by round - you can play 2-3 scenarios in less than 2 hours. I assume BattleLore will be similar. I highly recommend any game in this series.

    You can play the more advanced Risks, like Risk 2210, or Lord of the Rings Risk. they have more strategic options.

    Axis & Allies (revised), or A&A Europe/A&A Pacific are great games. They do take a long time to play, however. When my nin year old realizes that defeat is inevitable, he isn't excited about playing the additional 2 hours needed to accomplish it.

    Boardgame Geek is indeed the place to learn about games!

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  • Pergite
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    Originally posted by DeadlyVortex View Post
    ....Grognard is a hard site to navigate
    http://www.boardgamegeek.com/

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  • DeadlyVortex
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    I've looked some more into HeroScape some more, and it looks at least semi-decent. I've also looked into Memoir 44, and i really like that look of that game, except taht it isn't suited for 3 players well at all. but yea. I like both fantasy and realistic, it doesn't really matter. i just want something that i'm able to get into, but is very deep! I've looked at the game BattleLore (just released by the makers of Mem'44) and such, but it's made for 2 players
    The Game 'Doom' is also something i've looked into ....Grognard is a hard site to navigate

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  • Pergite
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    Axis and Allies miniatures is a easy game to pick up on. Its simple but yet enjoyable.
    http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=ah/aa/welcome

    The new Axis and Allies installment "Battle of the bulge" has also caught my eye. They have alot of other installments in that series, some of which are three player games as well.
    http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=ah/prod/axisbob

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  • dgfred
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    Welcome to the forums Vortex . Myself I luv Panzerblitz/PanzerLeader for
    boardgames and Close Combat 2 for the computer . All the above are
    really easy to get started with and you can go as deep/or not into them as you want to .

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  • djrost_2000
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    I like "The American Civil War" by Eagle Games. A few notches above Risk, but not as complex as some of the big games from the 70s and early 80s. Uses plastic miniatures and is a strategy game but the battles are duked out on the tactical level. It's a 2-player game, but you could easily divide a nation's forces in two and have 3 or more players.

    Dave

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  • alanp
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    One of my good gaming friends has a nine-year-old son and Heroscape is one of the games he--the son--is really into. It could be fun once or twice but I got bored after one playing. (I am a more or less hard-core war-gamer--I need a lot of detail and am more into the history as well as the 'gaming' aspect of the experience.)

    this same friend also gave Memoir '44 to his son (lucky kid!) and that is a game I've enjoyed with both the father and the son. The pieces aren't quite as 'cool' looking as Heroscape but they're more than cardboard counters.

    Not sure I have a specific recommendation for a title. I would recommend checking out www.grognard.com though. It's a site with hundreds of games listed with reviews and add-on information. It is pretty heavy into war-games, I believe, so not sure how much fantasy-leaning info is there. the one thing it does have is the ability to search for titles by number of players--your three-player need makes me think this is the way to go.

    It's hard to judge the difficulty level you need. Have you played many board games? Does one of the other two friends have any experience? Are you thinking wargame (Axis and Allies or Memoir) or fantasy? Would you consider what many call Euro games (Settlers of Cataan, Formula De, even?)

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