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    All updates for the STAVKA Team will be posted here. This is also the place for general chat amongst the Russian players but beware of posting your top secret info. We will be using the honour system in the HQs and players should not 'visit' the other threads. However,...
    The Purist

    Words ought to be a little wild, for they are the assault of thoughts on the unthinking - John Maynard Keynes.

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    The Red Army Deployments

    Of all the major armies in Europe in 1939 the Red Army is perhaps the largest,… and least effective. But this changes with time. Since we have a Red Army Team and the computer will not be controlling the Soviet Union until invaded we have to take some care to make sure we do not completely unbalance the game. If left to their own devices the Red Army would be fully reorganized and prepared with modern kit to meet the Germans and the game would be effectively over by the winter of 1941. However, at the same time the Germans are free within the confines of the game limits to build what they wish so it also makes no sense to limit the Red Army to a historical OoB while the Germans fine tune their own.

    On order to restore some balance and allow the Red Army some improvement the following house rule was adopted by a group I played this game with back in the late 70s and 80s. The Red Army must build its X/7/41 OoB as written before producing any of the newer more power full rifle, guards rifle, tank and mechanized corps. Peace time production is limited and to produce that force will take until nearly the end of 1940. Even then the Red Army team must be careful,… a lot of those peace time production points must be saved for the economic disruption that comes with the invasion. If the pool is empty and the Red Army tries to subsist on just the ‘strategic reserve it will find its ability to resist the invasion greatly impaired . There are also time restictions on when the newer corps can be build (based on actual deployment from the war).

    1939 OoB :----------------------------1941 OoB:

    Rifle divs…. 90----------------------- Rifle divs …. 194
    Tank bdes…. 19---------------------- Tank bdes …. 43
    Mech bdes…. 3 ---------------------- Mech bdes …. 17
    Arty Corps…. 3 ---------------------- Arty Corps …. 3
    AT bdes…. 1-------------------------- AT bdes …. 10
    RRU… 2 ------------------------------- RRU …. 2
    MSU…. 1 ------------------------------ MSU …. 1
    Air Points …. 0 ----------------------- Air Points …. 3

    This force must also be deployed in the specified military districts (Leningrad, Baltic, Polish, Bessarbia) or the city and regional reserves (Riga, Moscow, Odessa and Kransnodar), all ports and the Turkish border also require garrisoning. Troops above and beyond this force must be assigned to one of the existing forces or the Stavka Team can create new reserve groups based on the cities of Minsk, Kiev, Kharkov, Smolensk, Stalingrad, Murmansk and Grozny. Units deployed to these near city reserves must set up within 5 hexes of the city.

    That is the basics of the Red Army. Next we’ll take a look at the units that compose the forces of enlightened global socialism.



    The Red Army

    Soviet production is based on the total number of “Arms Centers” (factories), “Personnel Centers” (certain cities on map) and “Training Centers” (large training bases). The actual number of units that can be produced at any one time is determined by the number of active “Training Centers” that are up and running. The wonderful thing about Arms and Training Centers is that they can be moved to other Personnel Centers if the Germans get too close, however, they cease to function while “in transit” and take some time to get up and running again in their new location. This can tie up massive amounts of Russia’s rail capacity.

    The Red Army’s brigades, divisions and corps are produced in groups of two to four units and consist of the following types:

    1-4 Infantry div – possessed in large numbers this division is the building block for the 4-4 rifle and 5-5 Guard Rifle Corps. This division can fortify which triples its defense and doubles the defense of one other infantry unit in the same hex. Cheap and quick to produce it is also very fragile.

    1-4 Parachute div – only three divisions are available so the extra cost can be borne without too much pain. The ability to drop on or behind enemy line has its own advantages.

    1-4 Mountain div – the only advantage this division has is that it can cross mountain terrain easier than regular infantry. Slightly more expensive than regular infantry divs they take twice as long to produce.

    1-3 and 2-3 Cavalry divs and corps – while using less personnel these units use far more arms production than infantry. The only advantage over infantry is that they can move during the mechanized movement phase. Worth it? That’s up to STAVKA.

    3-5 Mechanised bde – the strongest of the lower echelon units it is also the one of the two building blocks required for the production of the later Tank and Mechanised Corps.

    2-5 Armoured bde – along with the mech bde this unit is used in the building of the larger tank and Mechanised corps but also soldiers as the main tank unit in the early army and later on as the consort to the infantry divs and corps.

    (1)-10 Anti-Tank bde – expensive in arms points but a very strong defensive unit. Any enemy armour attacking a stack containing this unit has its strength cut in half. On the other hand it is not much help against infantry.

    4-4 Rifle Corp – three rifle divs can be converted into a corps. These units will form the main strength of the Red Army by late 1941 and through 1942. These become available in early 1941.

    5-5 Guards Rifle Corps – the 4-4 corps can be upgraded to Guards status either through conversion or by being rebuilt from cadres. Available as of Jan 1942.

    9-6 Mechanised corps – built by converting three mechanized and one tank bde. Available beginning in March1942.

    8-6 Tank corps – built by converting 3 tank and one mechanized brigade. Available from Oct 1941.

    10-(1)-10 Artillery Corps – the “God of War” is an accurate description. These units are the great equalizer for the Red Army. When present in numbers they can literally erase sections of the enemy frontline. They have a range of two hexes and are available in large numbers.

    Mobile Supply Units – MSUs extend the supply reach from the railheads. Very slow moving and fragile units. Expensive to produce and not to be risked lightly.

    Railroad Repair Units – RRUs help repair and, more importantly, convert, standard European gauge railways to Russian gauge. A slow process but necessary. Quite expensive, they are normally found behind the lines and can be wisked out of danger if need be.

    Air Points - APs are a necessary element to the ground war as they allow for air-ground support for attacks and ground interdiction missions behind enemy lines. They also can be used against German naval moves in the Baltic, Black and High Seas Areas.

    NB: The game abstracts the surprise destruction of Red Air Force on the opening turn of Barbarossa by pinning the entire Luftwaffe in the east. The Germans can make no use of air points on that turn. This does mean that the Red Air Force must be built from the ground up and will likely not be a major factor until some time in early 1942.
    Last edited by The Purist; 23 Nov 09, 14:39.
    The Purist

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    • #3
      Sign me up For Stavka please Gerry.
      BoRG
      "... and that was the last time they called me Freakboy Moses"

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      • #4
        "Soyuz nerusimiy, respublik svobodnyk....."

        I'm in two minds whether to sign up here or SHAEF. Will someone please decide for me?

        If it's STAVKA, then I will be Political Officer.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by The Land View Post
          "Soyuz nerusimiy, respublik svobodnyk....."

          I'm in two minds whether to sign up here or SHAEF. Will someone please decide for me?

          If it's STAVKA, then I will be Political Officer.
          If you are prepared to Promote My Ideals for the proletariat, not shirk at the bloody cost of justified struggle, and not confuse Morality with the neccessity of Victory at all Costs... then you should be with STAVKA! Have a Vodka on me.
          BoRG
          "... and that was the last time they called me Freakboy Moses"

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          • #6
            Army Expansion

            Make sure you three are very familiar with what is posted above concerning the required troop levels. It will be a long process but not in the scope of the Tutorial except to show how Soviet production works.

            There will very little action for a long time while the Allies and Axis fight it out in the west. Get comfy and feel free to visit the SHAEF HQ to learn how a turn works (expectations).
            The Purist

            Words ought to be a little wild, for they are the assault of thoughts on the unthinking - John Maynard Keynes.

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            • #7
              Comrades,
              Reporting for duty!

              Thanks for looking!!

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              • #8
                The redeployments

                As noted above the Red Army must now expand and begin deploying into its "districts" and "reserve". There are not enough units of any type except cavalry and artillery to fulfill all the requirements so I'll start with the easiest first (Odessa Reserve) if you have any objection.

                Do you want the Polish District manned as strongly as possible for now? It will suck up most of the units but the Turkish Border, ports and Leningrad District should be able to get all their infantry for now. Everything else will have to be produced over the next two years.

                I'll post the exact requirements later tomorrow.
                Last edited by The Purist; 24 Nov 09, 08:54.
                The Purist

                Words ought to be a little wild, for they are the assault of thoughts on the unthinking - John Maynard Keynes.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by The Purist View Post
                  As noted above the Red Army must now expand begin deploying into its "districts" and "reserve". There are not enough units of any type except cavalry and artillery to fulfill all the requirements so I'll start with the easiest first (Odessa Reserve) if you have any objection.

                  Do you want the Polish District manned as strongly as possible for now? It will suck up most of the units but the Turkish Border, ports and Leningrad District should be able to get all their infantry for now. Everything else will have to be produced over the next two years.

                  I'll post the exact requirements later tomorrow.
                  Can we confirm that 4 of us are on this team, and that we can have a chin-wag first?
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Nick the Noodle View Post
                    Can we confirm that 4 of us are on this team, and that we can have a chin-wag first?
                    Da. How do you suggest we conduct this chin-wag?
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                    • #11
                      PM probably makes the most sense unless another option is raised...
                      BoRG
                      "... and that was the last time they called me Freakboy Moses"

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                      • #12
                        Players can leave a team at anytime, they just can't join another for at least 1 game year.

                        Wag away,... I'll be online later tonight for an hour or so (-7 GMT)

                        By the way. The only way to prevent Germany from winning is to crush it, if it is still in the game the OKW Team wins. The only way to win is for the USSR to hold more Axis capitals and resources/manufacturing centres than the western allies. The war with Finland will happen. The USSR will occupy eastern Poland and the Baltic States. Bessarabia will be occupied if the Germans take Paris. Persia can be occupied in cooperation with the allies in 1941 (iirc). These are automatic acts.

                        In short, your eyes should be looking at Poland and Germany because that is wherwe the danger lies.
                        Last edited by The Purist; 24 Nov 09, 09:25.
                        The Purist

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                        • #13
                          Once its confirmed we four are a team I'll PM my suggestions .
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Nick the Noodle View Post
                            Once its confirmed we four are a team I'll PM my suggestions .
                            Indeed Nick you are STAVKA... I saw enough lists with your name on them under STAVKA, and that's what counts for me!

                            Besides I need a Kick-ass Commander! and you're it!
                            BoRG
                            "... and that was the last time they called me Freakboy Moses"

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                            • #15
                              Im here ready to fight. Possible suggestion for communicating if PM is to hard. We can set up a social group that is invite only and discuss everything there?

                              Thanks for looking!!

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