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  • Strategic WW2 Wargame- Germany

    To pass the time while I sort out the Squad game, I'll get you chaps to help me out with my latest game of Hearts of Iron. Hearts of Iron is a casual wargame set in WW2. In my latest game (as the Germans) I've set out on a different strategy to my usual and the OTL strategy.

    Instead of investing heavily in panzers, I devoted all the scientists and industry I could to the Navy and Airforce. The results mixed. Because my army is nowhere near as impressive as the OTL army, I stand a much smaller chance of taking france, I've had to have less mechanization than there was in the OTL, I have a mere dozen or so Panzer Brigades (let alone Corps!), and almost no motorized infantry. Most of my army is old school infantry, though with modern equipment. To compensate, my Airforce is larger and more advanced than the OTL, however it has a different focus, there are no medium bombers and very few Stuka's, most of the airforce is fighters, with a large number of fighter bombers. The bomber wing is composed of Do-217's configured for anti-ship duties, I'll get to those soon.

    I decided to strike at the low countries right after my infantry (in combination with Hungary) subdued Poland. The move turned out to be a positive one, the French were not prepared to assist in their defense and both the Netherlands and Belgium have all but fallen.

    The Naval aspect of this war is where things get significantly different. Thanks to increased focus on the KM's needs, The KM has the two battlecruisers it did in the OTL, and also has FOUR Bismark class battleships, with nearly twice the number of destroyers and light cruisers to act as a screen. There are two small carriers (roughly the same size as the Hermes) to provide air cover and light strike capability. Two carriers are on the way which will be the most advanced carriers in the world when launched, they will be as fast as the Lexington while having the armor of the Illustrious class and a large plane complement to boot. To protect these carriers two more battleships are being built with AA capacities mirroring the Musashi.

    The problems facing me are-

    A severe lack of ground troops, Most of the Army is dealing with France, and while they are making headway the Reich is exposed to a surprise attack from the USSR, I hope they remain passive. War with the Soviet Union is basically impossible at this point, even with a pacified France. My armies are too small and two slow to attempt an invasion, such an endeavor will have to wait for at least three years.

    A lack of strike capacity, the few bombers in my airforce leave me unable to damage British industry, though my strong Naval Bomber contingent is wreaking havoc with their convoys.

    The classic German Naval Conundrum. Even though my navy is far better than the OTL navy, it's still no match for the RN, by the time I have 2 more carriers and 2 more battleships, the British will have three more battleships and four more carriers.


    My current plan is to subdue France, then try and wrest naval control of the channel using my large numbers of fighters and naval bombers. Channel secured, I will try and mount an invasion of Britian, if successful I will hopefully have the time and space to build an army to invade Russia, and eventually the United States.

    Lastly, here's some screens so you can see the fronts. Note, the eastern front is blissfully not in conflict, it's just there to show you how fed I am if Stalin goes for the backstab

    Channel:


    Ardennes:


    Maginot Line:


    Eastern Front:


    If you guys are willing I would be more than happy to delegate some commands, There's two Naval Squadrons (Bismark and Fredrick the Great, Bismark has 2 BB's, 2 BC's, the two carriers and a whole load of escorts, FtG has 2 BB's with escort), command of the U-Boat flotillas, Northern and Southern fighter command, literally dozens of Infantry Corps and a few Panzer Divisions. If you want you could become the Head of Production or Head of Technology.

    What do we do next?
    Task Force Regenbogen- Support and Paras

  • #2
    If your army is weak, you will probably lose Romania. Can you describe how the army is more modern but has no trucks? Most of the army weapons the Germans had were modern in the OTL. How are the Luftwaffe's Fallschirmjaegers affected? How many transports are available and how many FJ Divisions? Is the Waffen SS affected at all? What size is Grossdeutschland, brigade or regiment?

    Germany should be able to take out France just on tactics. It will take longer and hurt more, but the German Army defeated France in the OTL with worse armor. A lack of trucks will make the rate of march tied to the Infantry.

    Pruitt
    Pruitt, you are truly an expert! Kelt06

    Have you been struck by the jawbone of an ASS lately?

    by Khepesh "This is the logic of Pruitt"

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Pruitt View Post
      If your army is weak, you will probably lose Romania.
      Hungary and Bulgaria are more active in this simulation and will help some, I'll also have roughly 1 million men ready to defend the eastern frpont with France taken.

      Originally posted by Pruitt View Post
      Can you describe how the army is more modern but has no trucks? Most of the army weapons the Germans had were modern in the OTL. How are the Luftwaffe's Fallschirmjaegers affected? How many transports are available and how many FJ Divisions? Is the Waffen SS affected at all? What size is Grossdeutschland, brigade or regiment?
      There are some trucks, just not enough to mount men. Our supply lines are modern but the infantry has to train or march to the frontlines. we also have far fewer tanks than in the OTL. Grossdeustchland is yet to be formed, and the Waffen SS are the infantry component of the seven panzer divisions we do have.

      There is no air transport capability or fallscrimjagers, however there are training programs in place to make well trained divisions if need be.

      Originally posted by Pruitt View Post
      Germany should be able to take out France just on tactics. It will take longer and hurt more, but the German Army defeated France in the OTL with worse armor. A lack of trucks will make the rate of march tied to the Infantry.

      Pruitt
      It's a slog, but the french are buckling.
      Task Force Regenbogen- Support and Paras

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      • #4
        Bulgaria will not send troops against the Russians. Could I suggest you concentrate the available vehicles with the Antitank battalions (historical) and the Recon battalions?

        You are going to have to use such a large Navy, probably to get commerce raiders into the Atlantic.

        Have the Italians come in as yet?

        Pruitt
        Pruitt, you are truly an expert! Kelt06

        Have you been struck by the jawbone of an ASS lately?

        by Khepesh "This is the logic of Pruitt"

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        • #5
          I would like command of the Bismark group if you would be so kind.

          I'm thinking sorties in concert with your naval bombers to hit convoys and try to cut them down a bit navally.
          First Counsul Maleketh of Jonov

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Pruitt View Post
            Bulgaria will not send troops against the Russians.
            they will when the time comes, if they get a slice of yugoslavia.

            Originally posted by Pruitt View Post
            Have the Italians come in as yet?

            Pruitt
            yep
            Task Force Regenbogen- Support and Paras

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            • #7
              You really should consider using Grossdeutschland as a brigade in a Panzer Division. The Old Line Officer Corps will not like the Waffen SS getting more chance at glory then they are.

              If you are using fewer tanks, which kind are they? You should get the Czech Tanks, but the Mark I and II are supposed to be just training tanks.

              Pruitt
              Pruitt, you are truly an expert! Kelt06

              Have you been struck by the jawbone of an ASS lately?

              by Khepesh "This is the logic of Pruitt"

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              • #8
                I loved Hearts of Iron. When I played the German, I focused on army. Taking France was a cakewalk. Then I got Britain when they helped (I had a force ready to land). Which, ultimately, still did not help the ending haha.
                "We have no white flag."

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                • #9
                  4 divisions with tanks halfway between pz III and II, 3 divisions with panzer III's
                  Task Force Regenbogen- Support and Paras

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                  • #10
                    The Germans inherited hundreds of fine tanks when they took over Bohemia and Moravia. The T-35 and T-38 were better than Mark II's and almost as good as Mark III's. They comprised most of the tank strength of Panzer Divisions 6 through 10 and also a Panzer Brigade. Why aren't you using Mark IV's in the heavy Companies of Tank Battalions? You can always keep a high number of tanks in the battalions. The Germans did not start lowering Tank numbers until they doubled the number of Panzer Divisions by halving the number of tanks per battalion and doubling the Infantry Regiments.

                    Pruitt
                    Pruitt, you are truly an expert! Kelt06

                    Have you been struck by the jawbone of an ASS lately?

                    by Khepesh "This is the logic of Pruitt"

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Pruitt View Post
                      The Germans inherited hundreds of fine tanks when they took over Bohemia and Moravia. The T-35 and T-38 were better than Mark II's and almost as good as Mark III's. They comprised most of the tank strength of Panzer Divisions 6 through 10 and also a Panzer Brigade. Why aren't you using Mark IV's in the heavy Companies of Tank Battalions? You can always keep a high number of tanks in the battalions. The Germans did not start lowering Tank numbers until they doubled the number of Panzer Divisions by halving the number of tanks per battalion and doubling the Infantry Regiments.

                      Pruitt
                      The game is a little less complex than that, tank types are abstracted. The tanks we do have are better than the equivalent marks the world over at this time.
                      Task Force Regenbogen- Support and Paras

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                      • #12
                        Just to note for Pruitt, these aren't the A model IIIs. These IIIs IIRC have the 50mm gun. And also IIRC Dashy has researched heavy tanks (for infantry support) up to the Tiger I. So for 1940-41 he's pretty well set in tank technologies.

                        I suggested putting Heavy Tanks as an attachment to divisions. Especially the Marine Divisions being worked on for invading Britain. Not a lot of maneuver room there, so Heavy Tanks, ATGs, and Artillery to help grind it out with maximum firepower and minimum losses.

                        Once Operation TTTSNBN starts and gets headway, we should go into crash production of armored divisions for the Russian Front, as well as production of other bomber assets. We will need a heavy 'shield' of naval bombers to keep the blockade up, though once we have Britain we can then blockade most of Europe from America.
                        Tacitos, Satrap of Kyrene

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